Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-17 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 17/3/19 13:38, aitor_czr wrote: Hi Eward, On 7/3/19 8:38, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: Hi Everyone, My version of simple-netaid-backend has been debugged to connect when there is only one active wifi hotspot. It was previously failing to connect because there was an error in a

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-17 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 17/3/19 16:04, aitor_czr wrote: Hi Tom, On 17/3/19 14:38, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also working on an alternative to poettering's ifplugd for the automatically wired connect option of simple-netaid. Aitor. Can you borrow code from netplug for that? It does the same as

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-17 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Tom, On 17/3/19 14:38, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also working on an alternative to poettering's ifplugd for the automatically wired connect option of simple-netaid. Aitor. Can you borrow code from netplug for that? It does the same as ifplugd. —Tom I knew netplug, but i

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-17 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> I'm also working on an alternative to poettering's ifplugd for the > automatically wired connect option of simple-netaid. > > Aitor. > Can you borrow code from netplug for that? It does the same as ifplugd. —Tom___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-17 Thread aitor_czr
Hi again, On 17/3/19 13:38, aitor_czr wrote: Hi Eward, On 7/3/19 8:38, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: Hi Everyone, My version of simple-netaid-backend has been debugged to connect when there is only one active wifi hotspot. It was previously failing to connect because there was an error in

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-17 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Eward, On 7/3/19 8:38, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: Hi Everyone, My version of simple-netaid-backend has been debugged to connect when there is only one active wifi hotspot. It was previously failing to connect because there was an error in a while loop which prevented iteration from

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/19 at 01:34, Rick Moen wrote: > 'netstat -nalp' is hard-wired into my memory, whereas I have to look up > the 'ss' equivalent, every time.   You're lucky, as the ss equivalent of netstat -nalp is ss -nalp! -n, --numeric Do not try to resolve service names. -a, --all Display both

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/19 at 16:30, Bot Fap wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Mar 2019, 00:10 Alessandro Selli, > wrote: > > On 08/03/19 at 00:50, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > > > It's intriguing to see you get so emotional about this. > > >   My objections are

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/19 at 05:26, terryc wrote: > On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:39 +0100 > Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: >>> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place of the

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-08 Thread Daniel Abrecht via Dng
On 2019-03-07 19:49, Alessandro Selli wrote: Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig: ifconfig and iwconfig being depracted or obsolete is questionable at best. They work, get security patches if

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread terryc
On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:39 +0100 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am: > >>   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in > >> place of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Ralph Ronnquist via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > It's intriguing to see you get so emotional about this. I obviously would not presume to speak for Allesandro, but sometimes people get frustrated in Internet arguments in ways they might not in more-interactive discussion. (Anyway, I'd

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/19 at 01:19, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > Allesandro, my friend, over many years on the Internet, I've found that > certain discussions are best concluded with amicable production of the > set of facts that all present (within reason; and my

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
So you ask a question just so you can spit on me? Really, boy, you should have a chat with your shrink. Ralph. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > You accused me of intentions I never had, and are still failing at > providing with technical reasons why obsolete, nearly unmaintained, > universally deprecated and way outdated commands are to still be used > today when they do not offer

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/19 at 01:09, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 10:56 am: >>   Please tell us.  When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why? >> 1) ipfwadm >> 2) ipchains >> 3) iptables > I assume you ask me specifically.   No, I'm asking you generically. >

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 12:56:53AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   Please tell us.  When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why? > > 1) ipfwadm > > 2) ipchains > > 3) iptables An interesting example you made here... -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Have you accepted Khorne as your

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/19 at 00:50, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > It's intriguing to see you get so emotional about this.   My objections are technically motivated and documented.   Yours are neither. > Just the other week I opted for using ifconfig because I couldn't work > out the single command for

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 10:56 am: >   Please tell us.  When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why? > 1) ipfwadm > 2) ipchains > 3) iptables I assume you ask me specifically. In most hypotheticals I care to imagine, I would use iptables, because I believe I know it well

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 07/03/19 at 23:26, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am: >>   I did not write they are useless.  I wrote that they are obsolete and >> deprecated. > > Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither.   Please tell us.  When you need to do

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:48 am: >> I believe > >   Technical matters are not a matter of belief. > >> I objected to our choice of words, > >   You "believe" things you did?  Don't you even know why yourself did > and said things? > >> and not your reasons for >> insisting on using

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 07/03/19 at 23:26, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am: >>   I did not write they are useless.  I wrote that they are obsolete and >> deprecated. > > Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither.   They are both, and I explained why

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Rick Moen
(Hey, we've had this discussion at least once before.) Quoting Ralph Ronnquist via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > The terms "obsolete" and "deprecated" are badly chosen, since the > programs ifconfig and iwconfig are neither. You may well have your > reasons to like other programs to achieve the

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am: >   I did not write they are useless.  I wrote that they are obsolete and > deprecated. Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither. >> They work well without >> needing constant development; security patches are good. > >   They

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 07:22:37AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am: > >   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place > > of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig: > > The terms "obsolete" and

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 07/03/19 at 22:18, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 8:05 am: >> On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: >>> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place of the obsolete

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 8:05 am: > On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: >> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am: >>>   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place >>> of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig: >> The

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am: >>   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place >> of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig: > The terms "obsolete" and "deprecated" are badly chosen,

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am: >   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place > of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig: The terms "obsolete" and "deprecated" are badly chosen, since the programs ifconfig and iwconfig are neither. You

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-07 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 07/03/19 at 08:38, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > It uses instead ifconfig, iwconfig, wpa_supplicant and > dhclient.   Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig:

[DNG] simple-netaid-backend debugged.

2019-03-06 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Hi Everyone, My version of simple-netaid-backend has been debugged to connect when there is only one active wifi hotspot. It was previously failing to connect because there was an error in a while loop which prevented iteration from taking place when there was only one active wifi hotspot.