Re: [DNG] Suspend

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am So den 14. Jan 2018 um 0:17 schrieb Adam Borowski: > But, what is your reason to run a _laptop_ this old? I expect these to be > barely functional. Well, why to buy a new one when the old is good and fast and have proper interfaces (like

Re: [DNG] Suspend

Am Sonntag, 14. Januar 2018 schrieb Adam Borowski: > But, what is your reason to run a _laptop_ this old? I expect these to be > barely functional. X60 and T60 with libreboot are quite a good thing, as 5 seconds from poweroff to TDE is something that has to be beaten. These devices are still

Re: [DNG] Suspend

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:06:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:17:46AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > > And, in the recent KPTI (Meltdown, Spectre) massive workfest, I recall just > > a single remark about 32-bit x86, which pretty much said that there are no > >

Re: [DNG] Suspend

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:17:46AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > And, in the recent KPTI (Meltdown, Spectre) massive workfest, I recall just > a single remark about 32-bit x86, which pretty much said that there are no > fixes for these issues, and mitigating them is not on anyone's priority. >

Re: [DNG] Suspend

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:51:39PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I have a rather strange behavior recently with suspend. > > I usually suspend all my laptops to ram. I have two laptops, one with > custom kernel (4.14.12) and one with the usual ascii kernel > 4.14.0-3-686-pae (now). Both are ascii

[DNG] Suspend

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I have a rather strange behavior recently with suspend. I usually suspend all my laptops to ram. I have two laptops, one with custom kernel (4.14.12) and one with the usual ascii kernel 4.14.0-3-686-pae (now). Both are ascii and both are

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

Adam Borowski schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 23:05: >> Devuan 1.0 ships with upower 0.9.23. AFAIK newer daemon versions only >> support systemd-based installations. > > I believe checking power levels does still work in 0.99, although I can't > check right now (my only laptop is a flaky piece of arm

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:05:35 +0200, Adam wrote in message <20160725210535.gc15...@angband.pl>: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 07:39:58AM +0200, Klaus Fuerstberger wrote: > > Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18: > > > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck > > >

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 07:39:58AM +0200, Klaus Fuerstberger wrote: > Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18: > > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck > > there for a few months, do I need to downgrade or some such? > > Devuan 1.0 ships with upower 0.9.23. AFAIK

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 07:39:58 +0200, Klaus wrote in message <5fcaf78f-839d-05dc-04ab-750e0d35b...@arcor.de>: > Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18: > > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck > > there for a few months, do I need to downgrade or some such? > >

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18: > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck > there for a few months, do I need to downgrade or some such? Devuan 1.0 ships with upower 0.9.23. AFAIK newer daemon versions only support systemd-based installations. Klaus

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 09:26:05 +0200, Klaus wrote in message : > Hello, > > i want to bring back this thread about suspend / hiberante not working > with KDE. > > In the meanwhile i did a fresh Devuan installation and get no suspend > and hibernate

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

Hello, i want to bring back this thread about suspend / hiberante not working with KDE. In the meanwhile i did a fresh Devuan installation and get no suspend and hibernate menu entries in the KDE menu as a normal user. When I do a graphical login as root (for testing), I get the hibernate menu

Re: [DNG] Suspend blocks wifi

Le 14/05/2016 17:28, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit : Suspend to ram (done by xfce powermanagement) soft blocks wifi. After a suspend (to ram) i have to do a 'sudo rfkill unblock wifi' to reconnect. Maybe you need to install ifplugd and play with its configuration. Didier

[DNG] Suspend blocks wifi

Suspend to ram (done by xfce powermanagement) soft blocks wifi. After a suspend (to ram) i have to do a 'sudo rfkill unblock wifi' to reconnect. I also tried with a little script i made for tinycorelinux to suspend to ram: #!/bin/sh xscreensaver-command -lock & sleep 3 && sudo su "root" -c

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 08:44 PM, Simon Walter wrote: > > On 2016/04/13 3:03, Jaromil wrote: >> Now if you like this project to thrive then please lower the >> aggression you also recognize as disruptive in other projects. Let go, >> ignore what is not interesting. Noone here needs an expert to give an >>

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Wed, 4/13/16, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2016, 10:23 AM On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:40 + (UTC) Trond Arild Ydersbond <t_a_ydersb...@yahoo.no> wrote: >> >> I wonde

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 2016/04/14 0:43, Rowland Penny wrote: On 13/04/16 16:36, hellekin wrote: On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote: I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but "to be PC"? Err, what? Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer? == hk Allow me ,

Re: [DNG] suspend

Steve Litt writes: > Trond Arild Ydersbond wrote: >> I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what is >> planned: [...] >> Then it would be easier to filter on a per topic, rather than per >> user basis? > > Splitting a

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

Correct. The hibernation image would be for the old kernel, and on the next boot, the new kernel would choke on it, effectively making it an unclean shutdown. On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:22 AM Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:20:49 +0200 > richard lucassen

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 13/04/16 16:36, hellekin wrote: On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote: I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but "to be PC"? Err, what? Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer? == hk Allow me , 'PC' in that context would be 'Politically

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > > I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but > "to be PC"? Err, what? Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer? == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation,

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:20:49 +0200 richard lucassen wrote: > Beware of kernel changes, do not hibernate after a kernel change. Can I safely assume you mean don't hybernate after a new kernel which I've never before booted to? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt April 2016

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:40 + (UTC) Trond Arild Ydersbond wrote: > +1 > > I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what is > planned: > > > 1. dng-oppftopic - for the rants, systemd general stuff, > debian-related, public discussions > >

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/13/2016 01:24 PM, shraptor wrote: Not me, I think he has knowledge and some interesting comments Me too. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:47:10 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > > hibernate: > > > > echo disk > /sys/power/state > > > > suspend: > > > > echo mem > /sys/power/state > > Which is more or less what pm-suspend and pm-hibernate do, in a clean > way, and allowing to set personalised

Re: [DNG] suspend

Steve Litt writes: > Go Linux wrote: >> There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered >> directly to delete for many months. > > Me too. Since this has now reached my indirectly, there's also a good reason for this: (("from"

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:20:49PM +0200, richard lucassen wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:27:40 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? > > hibernate: > > echo disk > /sys/power/state > > suspend: > > echo mem >

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:27:40 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? hibernate: echo disk > /sys/power/state suspend: echo mem > /sys/power/state > If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake >

Re: [DNG] suspend

+1 I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what is planned: 1. dng-oppftopic - for the rants, systemd general stuff, debian-related, public discussions about Linux etc etc 2. dng-users- for support, discussion of more special issues, toy projects that are

Re: [DNG] suspend

Le 13/04/2016 09:33, shraptor a écrit : On 2016-04-13 02:13, Steve Litt wrote: There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered directly to delete for many months. Me too. Not me, I think he has knowledge and some interesting comments although there is some ranting in between

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 2016-04-13 02:13, Steve Litt wrote: There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered directly to delete for many months. Me too. Not me, I think he has knowledge and some interesting comments although there is some ranting in between So none of this kerfuffle reached

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

On 13/04/16 09:27, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, What's the difference between suspend and hybernate? How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up" the computer when I'm ready to use it again? In practical terms

[DNG] suspend and hybernate

Hi all, What's the difference between suspend and hybernate? How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up" the computer when I'm ready to use it again? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book:

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 2016/04/13 3:03, Jaromil wrote: Now if you like this project to thrive then please lower the aggression you also recognize as disruptive in other projects. Let go, ignore what is not interesting. Noone here needs an expert to give an opinion on every topic, even if mistakes are made. Even

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:12:21 + (UTC) Go Linux wrote: > > There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered > directly to delete for many months. Me too. > So none of this kerfuffle > reached my inbox. Nor my inbox > Others can of course do the same

Re: [DNG] suspend

Arnt Gulbrandsen writes: > Rainer Weikusat writes: >> ... their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items for just >> one month. > > It would be nice to have a bit less blahblah about random > systemd-related topics and a bit more about devuan. I've more or less > phased

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 4/12/16, Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 12:17 PM > dear Rainer, On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...] >

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > - I don't have so much spare time that I could seriously work on > something I don't need myself for 'street creds' alone (1 > day off per week, 51 weeks of work per year and on this > schedule since 2003) ok, same

Re: [DNG] suspend

Rainer Weikusat writes: ... their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items for just one month. It would be nice to have a bit less blahblah about random systemd-related topics and a bit more about devuan. I've more or less phased out from the list because of that, actually. Arnt

Re: [DNG] suspend

Rainer Weikusat wrote: Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people like Mr Baum keeps posting his entirely pointless insults or the person hiding behind the moniker "GoLinux" keeps expatiating her inability to understand that she's not the center of the universe and that the

Re: [DNG] suspend

Jaromil writes: > dear Rainer, > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...] > > I don't understand the origin of your frustration nor appreciate the > fact you are driving ad-personam attacks here, this being the

Re: [DNG] suspend

Rainer Weikusat writes: [...] > the chances that anybody would willingly endure this sorrily > typical "open source ***-fest" are terribly low? Elaborating a little on this: I'm subscribed to this list because I'm looking for a systemd-free upgrade path for my

Re: [DNG] suspend

dear Rainer, On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...] I don't understand the origin of your frustration nor appreciate the fact you are driving ad-personam attacks here, this being the main reason why I'm writing this on-list. What

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 4/12/16, Boruch Baum <boruch_b...@gmx.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 2:38 AM No polkit but I did find these in /var/log/dpkg.log : policykit-1:i386 0.105-9+devuan1 polic

Re: [DNG] suspend

Jaromil writes: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Boruch Baum wrote: [...] >> I'll sweeten the deal: If the list doesn't match the challenge, I'll >> still do it if the 'usual' yentas on the list (you know who you are) can >> keep a lid on their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Boruch Baum wrote: > You're welcome. GoLinux's response may indicate that my problem is > NOT due to polkit. I'll explain in my response to him after I finish > writing this. I don't think she cares a lot about restating it every time, however Golinux is a woman. > OK. I'll

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Tue, 4/12/16, Boruch Baum <boruch_b...@gmx.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 2:38 AM > I'm assuming that when you installed devuan, you asked the installer to > install a desktop environment. > Yes, XFCE took car

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 08:41 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Boruch Baum wrote: >> No improvement. > > ‎This requires, certainly, consolekit to be installed Check. But see below, final paragraph. > and. xinitrc with "startxfce4 --with-ck-launch" Hmm. I've got "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startxfce4".

Re: [DNG] suspend

Boruch Baum wrote: > No improvement. ‎This requires, certainly, consolekit to be installed and. xinitrc with "startxfce4 --with-ck-launch" I don't have an opportunity to try myself, as I dumped Xfce a quarter ago in favour of Openbox and then dwm, but the shenanigans I'm sending were sent by me

Re: [DNG] suspend

No improvement. On 04/12/2016 01:32 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Boruch Baum wrote:‎ > >> I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users', >> 'shutdown', or 'restart'. > > Try these: > create /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/‎consolekit.pkla and with the > content: > > -- >

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 01:32 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Boruch Baum wrote:‎ > >> I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users', >> 'shutdown', or 'restart'. > > Try these: Thanks, Mitt. I had tried those earlier (along with the parallel actions ending with "-multiple-users", to no avail. However, I

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 01:36 AM, Go Linux wrote: > On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 04/11/2016 09:40 PM, Go Linux wrote: On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote: Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of devuan-alpha-4, the

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/12/2016 02:27 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > I have created an issue to keep track of the ongoing research > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/issues/5 > > thanks! You're welcome. GoLinux's response may indicate that my problem is NOT due to polkit. I'll explain in my response

Re: [DNG] suspend

I have created an issue to keep track of the ongoing research https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/issues/5 thanks! please consider contributing this sort of issues to gitlab issues as it really helps organizing tasks for developers. Debating in email is fine, but then someone

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum <boruch_b...@gmx.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 11:48 PM On 04/11/2016 09:40 PM, Go Linux wrote: >>> On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum <b

Re: [DNG] suspend

Boruch Baum wrote:‎ > I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users', > 'shutdown', or 'restart'. Try these: create /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/‎consolekit.pkla and with the content:  -- [restart] Identity=unix-user:* 

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/11/2016 09:40 PM, Go Linux wrote: > On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote: >> Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of >> devuan-alpha-4, the functionality of suspend, hibernate, switch-users, >> shutdown and restart were unavailable to the desktop

Re: [DNG] suspend

On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum <boruch_b...@gmx.com> wrote: Subject: [DNG] suspend To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 6:53 PM > Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of devuan-alpha-4, the functionality of suspend, hibernate, switch-users,

[DNG] suspend

Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of devuan-alpha-4, the functionality of suspend, hibernate, switch-users, shutdown and restart were unavailable to the desktop user. The easy solution for suspend and hibernate is to create a pkla file in folder