Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-03 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 07/01/17 21:21, Simon Hobson wrote: In general - none ! So, why not just patching the crap out and filing an upstream bug (incl. notifying the folks here, so we can keep an eye on it) ? --mtx ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-02 Thread Ron
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:36:40 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > fate accompli > > "Fate" > > is very apposite in the circumstance > One misspell and a person's reputation is shot forever! > :-) And me thinking it was purposefully done ;-3) Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2017 01 Jul 11:47 -0500, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500 > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > fate accompli > > "Fate" > is very apposite in the circumstance One misspell and a person's reputation is shot forever! :-) - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 01/07/2017 à 18:46, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: fate accompli "Fate" is very apposite in the circumstance Cheers, Ron. "Fait accompli" means "accomplished fact", something it's a nonsense to oppose to,

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread Simon Hobson
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > At that point I'm curious which fancy features of systemd are needed > by applications at all ? In general - none ! But, it seems that the technique being used by it's proponents is to substitute their stuff and "force" new

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Nate Bargmann (n...@n0nb.us): > I'll admit, there was one trick that SD did that I liked, and that was > starting CUPS only when there was a call to print. I don't print often > so bringing up CUPS on demand and then shutting it down later was nice. > But then, SD was running all the

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread Ron
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: > fate accompli "Fate" is very apposite in the circumstance Cheers, Ron. -- It is a typically Hohenzollern idea to believe that it is a crime for a country to defend itself after its army has been destroyed.

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2017 01 Jul 08:49 -0500, vmlinux wrote: > It makes more sense when you consider that systemd is a thinly veiled > excuse for an init daemon which really wants to replace every distro > out there with something red hat has more control over. Certainly, that trend has been well established.

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread vmlinux
It makes more sense when you consider that systemd is a thinly veiled excuse for an init daemon which really wants to replace every distro out there with something red hat has more control over. On July 1, 2017 8:25:56 AM CDT, vmlinux wrote: :: :: ::On June 30, 2017

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread vmlinux
On June 30, 2017 1:14:24 AM CDT, Nate Bargmann wrote: ::* On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: :: ::> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an ::init ::> system? :: ::The same thing that a time sync (NTP) daemon is doing in there... ::

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread John Crisp
On 30/06/17 08:56, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > It's driven by Red Hat to make money out of supporting their > development. > Hammer -> Nail signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Ron
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:07:46 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float > by. > - Sun Tzu I'm afraid he never wrote that: See for instance

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > On 30 June 2017 at 09:14, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init > >> system? > > > > The same thing that a time

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 schrieb Aldemir Akpinar: > On 30 June 2017 at 09:14, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init > >> system? > > > > The same thing that a

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-06-30 07:53, schrieb Alessandro Selli: Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init system? systemd is _NOT_ an init system. That's a mythos. Systemd started as an init system, but evolved step-by-step to a monolithic low level Linux userland. It's

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 30 June 2017 at 09:14, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init >> system? > > The same thing that a time sync (NTP) daemon is doing in there... > > - Nate > And

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init > system? The same thing that a time sync (NTP) daemon is doing in there... - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds.

[DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-29 Thread Alessandro Selli
Issues just keep piling up: https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3341-1/ Summary systemd-resolved could be made to crash or run programs if it received a specially crafted DNS response. Details An out-of-bounds write was discovered in systemd-resolved when handling specially crafted DNS responses.