* On 2015 24 Feb 09:16 -0600, Rob Owens wrote:
> After some debate, that last dependency was changed to
> systemd-shim | systemd-sysv. That it required any debate at all
> makes me wonder where some of the Debian devs' heads are at.
It makes me wonder if the idea of installing anew rather than
> From: Rob Owens
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
>
> - Original Message -
>
> > From: "T.J. Duchene"
> >
> >
> >
> > Gnome already depends on systemd, but the apps do not.
>
> Not exactly true. My eyes were open to the systemd problem when I
> installed brasero on Jessie and it wanted
- Original Message -
> From: "T.J. Duchene"
>
> Gnome already depends on systemd, but the apps do not.
Not exactly true. My eyes were open to the systemd problem when I
installed brasero on Jessie and it wanted to change my init system.
Brasero depends on gvfs to detect removable med
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:33:28 +
Noel Torres wrote:
> On Saturday, 21 de February de 2015 18:52:22 Nate Bargmann escribió:
> > * On 2015 20 Feb 11:56 -0600, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:59:33 -0800
> > >
> > > Go Linux wrote:
> > > > We all knew this was coming . . .
> > > >
> I'm just wondering how this is going to affect KDE apps. I have several KDE
> apps installed on my current system, and really like them. It would be a
> pity if I couldn't use them in the future, though some of them could easily
> be replaced with non-KDE equivalents.
I don't think you need t
I'm just wondering how this is going to affect KDE apps. I have several KDE
apps installed on my current system, and really like them. It would be a
pity if I couldn't use them in the future, though some of them could easily
be replaced with non-KDE equivalents. I also have to wonder about Gnome
ap
> Please note that I'm not defending systemd. I just explai why KDE
movement is logical.
Sorry, I should have been clearer. My mini-rant was aimed at KDE.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Noel Torres wrote:
> On Monday, 23 de February de 2015 23:39:19 Jude Nelson escribió:
> > > Why not? If I
On Monday, 23 de February de 2015 23:39:19 Jude Nelson escribió:
> > Why not? If I were a developer and I had a library or service doing part
>
> of my
>
> > work, I would link to it and delete duplicated code on my side.
>
> If logind could be run fully independently from systemd, I don't think
> Why not? If I were a developer and I had a library or service doing part
of my
> work, I would link to it and delete duplicated code on my side.
If logind could be run fully independently from systemd, I don't think
there would be as much of a controversy.
This is why I don't really buy the exp
> Re: [Dng] KDE systemd lock-in
> From: Steve Litt
> LOL, for the first time in history, T.J. and I agree on something. I
> too said KDE would soon be in the systemd bot army.
Hopefully, we will have many more such civilised agreements and disagreements,
Steve! =) I loo
On Saturday, 21 de February de 2015 18:52:22 Nate Bargmann escribió:
> * On 2015 20 Feb 11:56 -0600, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:59:33 -0800
> >
> > Go Linux wrote:
> > > We all knew this was coming . . .
> > >
> > > KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
> > >
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:50:05 -0600
"T.J. Duchene" wrote:
> This was inevitable and expected. I'm not trying to be an "I told you
> so" but I have mentioned this is a likely scenario before now. It's
> not the end of the universe, however.
LOL, for the first time in history, T.J. and I agree on
This was inevitable and expected. I'm not trying to be an "I told you so" but
I have mentioned this is a likely scenario before now. It's not the end of
the universe, however.
You can:
a) patch the affected code.
b) Use a shim that provides traps for both services without actually using
Syst
Le 21/02/2015 19:52, Nate Bargmann a écrit :
Imagine the chaos if the maintainers of the
C library behaved in a like manner (okay, we'd have Python, but I
digress;-)
Let's hope GNU will keep away from systemd! Imagine GCC, LaTeX or
Emacs depending on it >:o
By the way, I read in th
* On 2015 20 Feb 11:56 -0600, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:59:33 -0800
> Go Linux wrote:
>
> > We all knew this was coming . . .
> >
> > KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
> >
> > https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235
Following on here since
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> They were
> specialists in monolithic entanglement when Lennart was in diapers.
i'd say any Behemoth DE does that and, like some else said, systemd
doing it is just the latest (and most blatant) example of this.
Cheers,
Nuno
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:59:33 -0800
Go Linux wrote:
> We all knew this was coming . . .
>
> KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
>
> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235
This is precisely what I'd expect from the KDE project. They were
specialists in monolit
We all knew this was coming . . .
KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235
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