On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> The route I've taken, so far, with experimental machines initting with
> sysvinit, OpenRC, Epoch and Runit, was to remove as much "desktopism"
> as possible. This isn't for everybody, but it works for me because I
> never did like the hi
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:14:40 +0200
Anto wrote:
> On 10/04/15 12:15, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > The result is an interesting laptop, most things are working.
> > Maybe I will find some problems in the future.
> >
> > I've looked at the Cinnamon desktop too, but it was not installable
> > withou
On 15/04/15 18:39, Franco Lanza wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:22:28PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
systemd-shim is for when you *don't* want systemd.
Yes, but cause of you have things that depend on components of systemd.
We don't want systemd nor anything depending on components from sy
thanks for the live images David
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, David Hare wrote:
> On 15/04/15 17:39, Franco Lanza wrote:
>
> >systemd-shim is for who don't want to have systemd in pid 1 but
> >accept other systemd components. We don't want systemd at all.
>
> +1. My /etc/apt/preferences.d/01systemd:
On 15/04/15 17:39, Franco Lanza wrote:
systemd-shim is for who don't want to have systemd in pid 1 but accept
other systemd components. We don't want systemd at all.
+1. My /etc/apt/preferences.d/01systemd:
Package: *systemd*
Pin: origin ""
Pin-Priority: -1
Yes, that also excludes libsystemd
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:22:28PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>
> systemd-shim is for when you *don't* want systemd.
Yes, but cause of you have things that depend on components of systemd.
We don't want systemd nor anything depending on components from systemd,
so, we don't want the shim to
Op 11-04-15 om 19:33 schreef Anto:
> On 11/04/15 19:05, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> Op 10-04-15 om 19:14 schreef Anto:
>>
>>> Hello Paul,
>>>
>>> I understand your pain as I have been there.
>>>
>>> I managed to have everything working with Debian jessie without any
>>> packages containing "*system
On 11/04/15 19:05, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
Op 10-04-15 om 19:14 schreef Anto:
Hello Paul,
I understand your pain as I have been there.
I managed to have everything working with Debian jessie without any
packages containing "*systemd*".
I don't think this is a good for systemd-shim.
I don'
Op 10-04-15 om 18:21 schreef David Hare:
>
> I have sucessfully got lightdm and xfce shutdown/reboot/suspend UI's
> working here. USB handling in thunar also works. All systemd components
> including libsystemd0 excluded.
Nice to hear!
> You will need appropriate packages from
> http://packages.
Op 10-04-15 om 19:14 schreef Anto:
> Hello Paul,
>
> I understand your pain as I have been there.
>
> I managed to have everything working with Debian jessie without any
> packages containing "*systemd*".
I don't think this is a good for systemd-shim.
> I also used XFCE 4.10, lightdm and wicd
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