Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

On 07/16/2016 10:15 PM, Rick Moen wrote: Iron-clad proof that Bill Gates owns Fort Knox. ;-> Linuxmafia ?? Aitor, ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Help needed debugging MySQL install

Hi everyone, I am having trouble installing mysql-server inside a container (lxc). I have the same problem with a fresh Jessie install. so it doesn't seem specific to Devuan. Basic description of problem: After unpacking and setting up the packages, mysql is stopped and the root use

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > That's the point - I never suggested it didn't. But it doesn't work > for me - as in that's not a route I'm happy taking in order to deal > with it. I wouldn't dream of arguing against people's likes. > Thank you for that link, I was aware of the

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Sorry about typo. > I did get a very bemused mail from the main organiser of Linux Silicia, > because of the domain name.^^^ Sicilia, even. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Quoting aitor_czr (aitor_...@gnuinos.org): > On 07/16/2016 10:15 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > >Iron-clad proof that Bill Gates owns Fort Knox. ;-> > > Linuxmafia ?? I did get a very bemused mail from the main organiser of Linux Silicia, because of the domain name. (It does

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:15:23 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > Whether he uses Devuan in a virtual machine is not directly relevant > > to me. I appreciate that when he's tinkering with the innards of a > > distro it may be

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > Rick Moen wrote: > > > 'Doing' something that is functionally indistinguishable from doing > > nothing. And a '000' rights mask would be fully effective paranoia > > insurance. > > Present tense and gaffer tape. Of course,

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is pointless

Quoting dev (devua...@gmail.com): > Sure, why not? 1. I notice you curiously dropped off the mailing list into private mail. Sorry, I wasn't really interested in a private discussion. 2. I notice you weren't interested in that wager. So, just rhetorical overload, as expected. > Glibc is

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is pointless

I'm sorry, it's the middle of the night here, and I shouldn't be responding to mail. I didn't notice that the private copy was a _Cc_, and otherwise would not have spoken in that tone. As is the way of such things, I realised my error a split-second after the Send command.

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016, aitor_czr wrote: >Bingo !! >Solved :) fantastic. we need linux-libre live!! looking forward to your next release of gnuinos ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Quoting Simon Walter (si...@gikaku.com): > I want to give a little bit of constructive criticism. > > "A fool is known by a multitude of words." That is not to say you > are fool. I don't know you. However, everyone is pretty busy. So if > you want to express something accurately, minimize

Re: [DNG] Slow network startup [was: Systemd discussion on the Samba mailing list]

Am Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:40:14 + schrieb Go Linux : > My Devuan wired network takes maybe 10-15 seconds to come up after I > come out of suspend. What's up with that. It was always ready on > Squeeze and Wheezy. Now I twiddle my thumbs and wait until wicd > wakes up. It's

Re: [DNG] [D OFFLIST NG] Larcenous mail threads.

Hi Edward, On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 07:45:23AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > Steve Litt wrote: > << > Ignore doesn't mean insult. It doesn't mean get all sad. It means not > respond, and don't let it get > under your skin. And you need to understand that this list is neither > a C list

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (golinux)

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016, Robert Storey wrote: >should I report it here: >[1]https://git.devuan.org/devuan/slim/issues yes! that's the place where we hope everyone here will note down the results of conversations on bugs. The mailinglist is not really good for archiving those. and the task

Re: [DNG] C Obfuscated code: a virtue or a vice?

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Peter Olson wrote: > I'm a fan of Donald Knuth as well. My funny story is that when I > was in college, I got an offer from Addison-Wesley to preorder the > seven volume set "The Art of Computer Programming" for the low. low > price of $119. It's now more than 40 years

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

> On July 16, 2016 at 8:51 AM Simon Hobson wrote: [...] > > Duct tape, actually. It's like the Force. It has a light side and a > > dark side, and it holds the universe together. > > > > Duct tape is cool. > > Over here, the common term is gaffer tape. Duct tape is

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 02:12:01 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > > > Rick Moen wrote: > > > > > 'Doing' something that is functionally indistinguishable from > > > doing nothing. And a '000' rights mask would

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (Steve Litt)

Am Sat, 16 Jul 2016 14:30:36 + schrieb Steve Litt : > I'd prefer a display manager that isn't associated with a window > manager or desktop environment. I understand that and i would agree, but in my experience with devuan here, lxdm was the loginmanager which

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (golinux)

On Sat, 7/16/16, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (golinux) To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, July 16, 2016, 4:03 AM On Sat, 16 Jul 2016, Robert Storey wrote: >>should I report it here: >>[1]https://git.devuan.org/devuan/slim/issues >>

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Rick Moen wrote: I think we're arguing in violent agreement - there is more than one way to approach the issue, more than one attitude to "risk", and what works for one person isn't necessarily what works for someone else. Isn't that a key tenet of the FOSS way - the

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (golinux)

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:25:58 + (UTC) Go Linux wrote: > > Actually this is the place where slim issues are being posted. ;) > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/slim/issues > > golinux Cool, I just added, at the preceding URL, the request for special login names

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (Steve Litt)

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:18:27 +0200 wrote: > Am Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:43:40 + > schrieb Robert Storey : > > > Thanks for posting this, it's an issue I wanted to raise but glad > > someone else brought it up first. > > I'd like to propose the use

[DNG] Gaffer tape: was Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Peter Olson wrote: > > On July 16, 2016 at 8:51 AM Simon Hobson > > wrote: > > [...] > > > > Duct tape, actually. It's like the Force. It has a light side > > > and a dark side, and it holds the universe

[DNG] libsx-dev and libsx0 packages don't work

Hi all, libsx-dev and libsx0 are very lightweight GUI widget packages. In the waning days of my being part of the Debian Community, a guy named Lee showed me how I could build a notification system that didn't depend on dbus, using libsx. But Devuan's libsx doesn't work, specifically, it yields

[DNG] Optional libraries

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 01:51:37PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: > Now, if the devs/maintainers used a "if it's there call it, if it > isn't then don't" approach then I could see that working. I assume > that is a possible way of calling library functions given the number > of programs with

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (golinux)

Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I'd suggest the display manager we use not be part of a window manager > or desktop environment. With all the things that have been going on in > the Linux world the past couple years, I prefer my parts independent > unless I'm using the whole

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Whether he uses Devuan in a virtual machine is not directly relevant > to me. I appreciate that when he's tinkering with the innards of a > distro it may be vastly convenient to do it in a virtual machine > rather than bare metal, expecially if

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Hendrik Boom wrote: > That said, I find it immensely convenient that someone else is > providing me with a systemd-free distro that's a natural > continuation of the Debian I've been using for years. +1 > What's left is a matter of taste. > There's no point arguig

Re: [DNG] C Obfuscated code: a virtue or a vice?

> On July 16, 2016 at 4:47 AM Jaromil wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Peter Olson wrote: > > > I'm a fan of Donald Knuth as well. My funny story is that when I > > was in college, I got an offer from Addison-Wesley to preorder the > > seven volume set "The Art of Computer

Re: [DNG] Need for documentation (golinux)

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:34:33 +0800 Robert Storey wrote: > I think I understand the issue well enough to sum it up nicely, so if > no one objects, should I just go ahead and file a bug report? If > we're about to dump Slim for lxdm or lightdm or whatever, I needn't >

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Due to my needs, my situation, my beliefs, and my skillset, an OS from > the Debian project doesn't work for me. I've said why about 15 times on > two mailing lists. For *me*, what works is the Devuan fork. So for me, > the situation merited a

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 12:44:33PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > Due to my needs, my situation, my beliefs, and my skillset, an OS from > > the Debian project doesn't work for me. I've said why about 15 times on > > two mailing lists. For *me*,