Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread aitor_czr
On 08/13/2016 10:45 AM, aitor_czr wrote: *vdev-example.postinst*_ #!/bin/sh set -e PREFIX=/ if [ $# -gt 1 ]; then PREFIX=$1 shift 1 fi update-rc.d -f udev remove update-rc.d -f udev-finish remove ln -s /usr/etc/init.d/vdev /etc/init.d/vdev ln -s /usr/etc/vdev

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:01:47 -0400 fsmithred wrote: > Anyway, I'm going to start with Jude's directions and see if I can > catch up. Meanwhile, I did do something useful, and I can answer your > question about eudev - yeah, I tried it, and it seems to work (with > minimal

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Ralph, Richard: On 08/12/2016 03:50 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: The set up I now have, does the right thing on boot. I think. Firstly, it loads vdev from initrd during the first stage boot, and then it exits. A snapshot of /dev taken before the next start shows

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread aitor_czr
On 08/13/2016 10:48 AM, aitor_czr wrote: On 08/13/2016 10:45 AM, aitor_czr wrote: *vdev-example.postinst*_ #!/bin/sh set -e PREFIX=/ if [ $# -gt 1 ]; then PREFIX=$1 shift 1 fi update-rc.d -f udev remove update-rc.d -f udev-finish remove ln -s

[DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Fred DC
Hi, My apololgies for sounding a bit emotional about this issue. If, up to now, you have "runit" running as pid 1 and managed to maintain the ability to boot from the kernel commandline using the sysv-init read on. The latest update to package 'runit' *wipes* out the 2 binaries /sbin/runit-init

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Fred DC
On 13/08/2016 11:52, aitor_czr wrote: > [Snip} > > Yes, we need testers :) > > Best, > > Aitor. Oh yes, I will test it once it hits 'ascii' or perhaps even the 'unstable' branch. Sorry can't do better bacause I am just a user with a fairly good head on its shoulder. Regards Fred

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:52:55 +0200 aitor_czr wrote: > > We need a vdev package that depends on an empty systemd-udev > > package. All the other packages that depend on systemd-udev will > > otherwise be uninstalled. > > vdev will provide udev in teh same way as

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:54:54 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:17:13AM +0200, richard lucassen wrote: > > We need a vdev package that depends on an empty systemd-udev > > package. All the other packages that depend on systemd-udev will > > otherwise be

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread fsmithred
On 08/13/2016 04:45 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > > I'm applying changes to the packages. This is my vdev.conf file: > > *vdev.conf*_ > > [vdev-config] > firmware=/usr/lib/firmware > acls=/etc/vdev/acls > actions=/etc/vdev/actions > helpers=/usr/lib/vdev >

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:17:13AM +0200, richard lucassen wrote: > We need a vdev package that depends on an empty systemd-udev package. > All the other packages that depend on systemd-udev will otherwise be > uninstalled. Use Provides:. This can nowadays even give a version. -- An imaginary

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 06:33:50 -0400 fsmithred wrote: > > firmware=/usr/lib/firmware > > I think firmware should be set to /lib/firmware. That's where my > firmware is. I have no /usr/lib/firmware. Yep. I agree. Firmware is AFAIK in /lib/firmware -- richard lucassen

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread fsmithred
On 08/12/2016 12:32 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:41:42 +0200, richard wrote in message > <20160812174142.f82635d8a4201d3119759...@lucassen.org>: > >> >> That's a good point. Devuan means "freedom of choice" and it would be >> nice if a Devuan user could opt for udev, > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 20:34:07 +0200 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Steve Litt [2016-08-12 19:47]: > > > I don't understand. Do you perhaps mean that sysvinit is PID1, and > > you use runit strictly as a process supervisor? The reason I ask > > this is, whatever acts as PID1 is what

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Robert Storey
> I have to do some work now, I look forward to the packages. Maybe you > can add a small README.txt for those who are willing to test vdev. Yes please. A small README.TXT explaining what we have to do to set up and install vdev will work wonders at attracting testers. Having to sift through the

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread aitor_czr
Hi fsr, On 08/12/2016 02:00 PM, fsmithred wrote: On 08/13/2016 04:45 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > >I'm applying changes to the packages. This is my vdev.conf file: > >*vdev.conf* _ > >[vdev-config] >firmware=/usr/lib/firmware >acls=/etc/vdev/acls

Re: [DNG] Off-list - upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Fred DC
On 12/08/2016 13:43, Tom H wrote: >> On 12/08/2016 11:49, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> Off-list >>> >>> Install >>> runic-init >>> in order to restore >>> /sbin/init >>> and >>> /sbin/runit >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately 'runic-init' it is not in >> 'ascii' and googling didn't help

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 05/08/2016 21:45, Steve Litt a écrit : Readhttps://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev . mdev means no Gnome allowed, and neither KDE nor its apps allowed. That don't cross my eyes none, I banned all KDE software from my computers in 2012, and I haven't used Gnome since they went to the lame Gnome3.

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:08:42 -0500 Jim Murphy wrote: > I'm not a dev and haven't done a lot of research on how things > should work with multiple *dev(s). It would appear that there > could be at least 2 or maybe 3 that will be part of devuan's > offerings(udev, vdev and

Re: [DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > LOL, you're right. The bootloader or UEFIwhatever starts the kernel. Everyone who's read your excellent troubleshooters.com artlces about inits figured out that your fingers were merely on autopilot or something, but you _definitely_ knew that

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Peter Olson
> On August 13, 2016 at 4:45 AM aitor_czr wrote: As you know, today is August 12, not August 13. PLEASE FIX YOUR COMPUTER CLOCK Here is the trace of your message: START > Received: from [192.168.0.10] (114.62-99-112.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:41:42 +0200, richard wrote in message <20160812174142.f82635d8a4201d3119759...@lucassen.org>: > > That's a good point. Devuan means "freedom of choice" and it would be > nice if a Devuan user could opt for udev, ..best way would be advice of the looming systemd

Re: [DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:32:41 +0200 Fred DC wrote: > Hi, > > My apololgies for sounding a bit emotional about this issue. The behavior of the poetterists is enough to make anybody indignant. > > If, up to now, you have "runit" running as pid 1 and managed to > maintain

Re: [DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Harald Arnesen
Steve Litt [2016-08-12 19:47]: > I don't understand. Do you perhaps mean that sysvinit is PID1, and you > use runit strictly as a process supervisor? The reason I ask this is, > whatever acts as PID1 is what boots the kernel. No. The kernel starts PID1. -- Hilsen Harald

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:12:27 +0200 aitor_czr wrote: > Finally i decided to use the following config file: > > [vdev-config] > firmware=/lib/firmware > acls=/etc/vdev/acls > actions=/etc/vdev/actions > helpers=/lib/vdev > hwdb=/lib/vdev/hwdb/hwdb.squashfs >

Re: [DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Edward Bartolo
Harald Arnesen wrote: << Steve Litt [2016-08-12 19:47]: > I don't understand. Do you perhaps mean that sysvinit is PID1, and you > use runit strictly as a process supervisor? The reason I ask this is, > whatever acts as PID1 is what boots the kernel. No. The kernel starts PID1. >> Steve Litt

Re: [DNG] Off-list - upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 03:25:27PM +0200, Fred DC wrote: > On 12/08/2016 13:43, Tom H wrote: > >>From the changelog of 2.1.2-4: > > New binary package 'runit-init', that provides /sbin/init replacement > > out-of-box. > > > > I'd say that it's badly packaged. For sysvinit, there's > > > > -