Re: [DNG] New Devuan-based distro

2017-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:36:50 -0300 Emiliano Marini wrote: > Not new, but now based on Devuan. > > EterTICs GNU/Linux is a GNU/Linux distribution aimed for community > radios of Latinamerica. His goal is to be 100% libre and it has all > the software needed to setup a

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Narcis Garcia
1. SPF is a friendlier solution and enough for this. 3. GPG signatures is more standard and friendlier solution for this. This kind of tricky solutions (as DKIM) only make people to move to other easier but non-neutral technologies, hosted services such as WhatsApp or web-based. El 03/08/17 a

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > SPF breaks mailing lists and mail forwarders - and this is NOT (IMO) > fixable without introducing a wide open front gate for spammers to > ride through and completely bypass SPF. No. it does not break mailing lists. It _does_ break other common

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
For what it's worth, SPF, DKIM and DMARC were developed by largely different sets of people, who disagreed without each other about what was acceptable tradeoffs, what was doable and more. The "they" you mention act senselessly because it is not one set of people. Patching up email against

Re: [DNG] [test] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Daniel Abrecht
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 This is just a test mail, please ignore. This time without MIME/PGP signing, because it causes mailman to add a multipart header before the message, which interferes with the DKIM check. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2

Re: [DNG] [test] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Daniel Abrecht
This is just a test mail, please ignore. I have changed my OpenDKIM config again, and added Return-Path, References and In-Reply-To to the list of headers to be not covered by DKIM. (also, I switched back to MIME/PGP signing, I think I'll just have to search a better mail client for that.)

Re: [DNG] New Devuan-based distro

2017-08-03 Thread John Morris
On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 03:31 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:36:50 -0300 > > > > EterTICs GNU/Linux is a GNU/Linux distribution aimed for community > > radios of Latinamerica. His goal is to be 100% libre and it has all > > the software needed to setup a "libre" radio including

Re: [DNG] [test] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Daniel Abrecht (d...@danielabrecht.ch): > This is just a test mail, please ignore. This time without MIME/PGP > signing, because it causes mailman to add a multipart header before > the message, which interferes with the DKIM check. Not a complaint, just an observation. On every system

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Rick Moen
Daniel, again, thank you for your efforts to collect diagnostic data for the Devuan Project, and for your care and precision. I respect the reasons you're making DMARC work for your domain, and certainly have no argument with you doing so (though I do not come to the same conclusion for my own

[DNG] VimL expert needed

2017-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, If any of you is proficient in Vim's internal language (I think it's called VimL), and you want to work on a Free Software project, I need your help. I'm forking VimOutliner (VO), because the project's current crew changed VO's main keyboard prefix from easy ,, to wrist-twisting and

Re: [DNG] Excessive bounces

2017-08-03 Thread Simon Hobson
Narcis Garcia wrote: > 1. SPF is a friendlier solution and enough for this. SPF breaks mailing lists and mail forwarders - and this is NOT (IMO) fixable without introducing a wide open front gate for spammers to ride through and completely bypass SPF. So consider that