Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dave Turner (dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk): > >>I say: You must use strncpy()/strncat() because strcpy()/strcat() are > >>    soo old. > I still have a copy of the paper that brought strncpy / strncat to > the world's attention all those years ago. FWIW,

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-29 Thread Daniel Taylor
On 10/29/18 2:59 PM, Rick Moen wrote: FWIW, strncpy()/strncat() were a huge advance over strcpy()/strcat(), but also have their own problems: https://blog.liw.fi/posts/strncpy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ifje6/strncpy_just_say_no/ They do, but that's not an excuse for using

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-29 Thread Daniel Abrecht
On 27/10/2018 19.38, Steve Litt wrote: I say: You must use strncpy()/strncat() because strcpy()/strcat() are soo old. What's it been now, 30 years since the strn versions of those commands have been around? You'd think they'd have taken that in and adopted it by now. But

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:28:02PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Daniel Taylor (ran...@argle.org): > > > They do, but that's not an excuse for using strcpy(). > > > > Which they did. > > Of course, obviously. You _are_ aware I was merely trying to help by > pointing out that strncpy (etc.)

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > ..I find your take on this, disturbingly credible. > But Big Blue has also done incredible good things: > http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20061212211016210 > as we (125,000?) Groklawians documented in: http://groklaw.net/ Ah,

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Daniel Taylor (ran...@argle.org): > They do, but that's not an excuse for using strcpy(). > > Which they did. Of course, obviously. You _are_ aware I was merely trying to help by pointing out that strncpy (etc.) is suboptimal, right? > Helper libraries are awesome, as long as they

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:02:30 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > OK. Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the > wikipedia page), I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will > affect community based Linux and everyone who jumped on the systemd > bandwagon: > >

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-29 Thread aitor
Hi, On 10/29/2018 09:37 PM, Daniel Abrecht wrote: On 27/10/2018 19.38, Steve Litt wrote: I say: You must use strncpy()/strncat() because strcpy()/strcat() are     soo old. What's it been now, 30 years since the strn versions of those commands have been around? You'd think they'd have

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > OK. Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of > the wikipedia page), I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this > will affect community based Linux and everyone who jumped on the > systemd bandwagon: It's a jackassical attempt

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 29 Oct 17:09 -0500, Rowland Penny wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:02:30 -0500 > goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > OK. Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the > > wikipedia page), I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will > > affect community based Linux

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread Daniel Reurich
I'm sure that's a joke relating to Redhat being bought out by IBM ... On 30/10/18 11:02, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > OK.  Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the > wikipedia page),  I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will > affect community based Linux and

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread golinux
Lennart has a sense of humor? That's a little too much of an in joke for me. Went right over my head . . . On 2018-10-29 17:10, Daniel Reurich wrote: I'm sure that's a joke relating to Redhat being bought out by IBM ... On 30/10/18 11:02, goli...@dyne.org wrote: OK.  Having no idea what an

[DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread golinux
OK. Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the wikipedia page), I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will affect community based Linux and everyone who jumped on the systemd bandwagon: - Lennart Poettering ‏ @pid_eins

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/29/18 3:02 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: OK.  Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the wikipedia page),  I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will affect community based Linux and everyone who jumped on the systemd bandwagon:

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
It's a joke, son. On 10/29/18 6:02 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: OK.  Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the wikipedia page),  I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will affect community based Linux and everyone who jumped on the systemd bandwagon:

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 09:44:43 +, Rowland wrote in message <20181029094443.146cb...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100 > Harald Arnesen wrote: > > > Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]: > > > > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread Harald Arnesen
Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]: > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors > from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account.  I'm not > having any issues with any of my other mailing lists. Yes, same here. -- Hilsen Harald

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/10/2018 à 03:51, Rick Moen a écrit : Quoting hal (vmli...@charter.net): What are the particulars? The Bloomberg report (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-28/ibm-is-said-to-near-deal-to- +acquire-software-maker-red-hat) says this is a _cash_ acquisition, the tender offer

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]: > > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors > > from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account.  I'm not > > having any issues with any of my other mailing

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 08:43:29 +0100, Didier wrote in message <85c41e05-fbe1-c5a4-2259-3f81d9a72...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 29/10/2018 à 03:51, Rick Moen a écrit : > > Quoting hal (vmli...@charter.net): > > > >> What are the particulars? > > The Bloomberg report > >

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread Joril
On 29/10/2018 02:40, Linux O'Beardly wrote: Hey all, Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account.  I'm not having any issues with any of my other mailing lists. Happened to me too. Bye!

[DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)

2018-10-29 Thread Michael K.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 *Big Thanks* @all at first for help and clue Dear readers, Am 26.10.18 um 20:21 schrieb Michael K.: > Hey List readers, abstract: i can open my ".xsession-error" File whit: Emacs, NANO and also the MC or wxHex i make a "backup" of my ol'

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread g4sra
No actually... Pottering is a Microsoft plant set with the mission to destroy Linux as we know it! Big Blue are stepping in to nullify him :) > ..who of the 3, has had the bigger losses from GNU/Linux qualities, > and from the impacts from the distro systemd coups d'etats? > > ..could this be

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread spiralofhope
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:47:18 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..could this be Big Blue buying Red Hat to kill systemd? As I understand, IBM's largest asset licensing its pool of patents. With that in mind, I think of this purchase of Red Hat as them attempting to cement control in something

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread spiralofhope
I don't know if it's related, but I noticed that some emails aren't getting put in the lists.dyne.org mailing list archives. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 06:00:58 -0700, spiralofhope wrote in message <20181029060058.7d7b7992@1A.1A>: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:47:18 +0100 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..could this be Big Blue buying Red Hat to kill systemd? > > As I understand, IBM's largest asset licensing its pool of

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread Gastón
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 09:40:57PM -0400, Linux O'Beardly wrote: > Hey all, > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors from > the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account. I'm not having any > issues with any of my other mailing lists. > > -- > Linux

[DNG] DSA Ascii Oct29

2018-10-29 Thread leloft
Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:51:40 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4329-1] teeworlds security update version 0.6.5+dfsg-1~deb9u1 Confirmed: ascii-security Tue, 16 Oct 2018 21:57:57 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4321-1] graphicsmagick security update version 1.3.30+hg15796-1~deb9u1 Sun, 28 Oct 2018

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I wouldn't consider this necessarily doom and gloom IBM has done a lot of good lately in regards to affordable performance computing freedom with OpenPOWER and helping to bring the Raptor TALOS 2 and Blackbird to life - no other company would take and implement suggestions from a small player let

Re: [DNG] The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!'

2018-10-29 Thread Daniel Taylor
On 10/27/18 2:38 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:24:22 +0200 info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: Not my words although i agree fully with them: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/26/systemd_dhcpv6_rce/ "The overflow can be triggered relatively easy by advertising a DHCPv6