On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:01:15 +0200
Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:27:08PM +0200, Edward Bartolo via Dng
> wrote:
>
> > [ ... ] That prank was completely misplaced: as someone replied,
> >one does not joke with security. The latter can mean lost business.
>
>Only if
On 11/04/19 09:21, KatolaZ wrote:
> In the last ten days all those threee things have materialised, to
> different degrees. Hence, I have decided to withdraw from Devuan and
> will now take an indefinite leave from the project.
>
Tragic.
I tried hard not to waste too much time reading the
On 4/11/19 1:27 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> It was at least a perfect example that "politic correctness" takes out the
> fun of everything. Sorry that KatolaZ decided to leave, but quite
> understandable.
this was no political correctness example to me. corporate/other
correctness maybe.
On 11/04/2019 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
From: KatolaZ
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Cc: devuan-dev
Subject: [DNG] Way forward
Message-ID: <20190411082106.t6clprzistrjv...@katolaz.homeunix.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Dear D1rs,
the first Devuan Conference last
It looks like Devuan just got knocked sideways, although I don't worry
about the loss of forward momentum.
A voice inside my head is hoping this too is merely a joke.
Clarke
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Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> In the last ten days all those threee things have materialised, to
> different degrees. Hence, I have decided to withdraw from Devuan and
> will now take an indefinite leave from the project.
Enzo, please enjoy your leave and come back soon. Speaking
It was surprising to me to read what Jaromil wrote in one of his
replies regarding the April Fools prank. In short, the statement was
that Devuan takes no responsibility whatever the outcome of its use.
Any invester will definitely make a lot of effort to avoid such a
possibility that can ruin
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:27:08PM +0200, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
[ ... ] That prank was completely misplaced: as someone replied,
one does not joke with security. The latter can mean lost business.
Only if people are too stupid to understand the idea behind what is
called a backup of
Dear D1rs,
the first Devuan Conference last weekend was an incredible experience,
which confirmed that Devuan has lots of energy, strength, imagination,
humanity, and willpower to succeed in its quest. Devuan is in
excellent hands, and it is destined to grow from strength to strength.
I joined
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:46:13PM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
On 4/11/19 1:27 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
It was at least a perfect example that "politic correctness" takes out the fun
of everything. Sorry that KatolaZ decided to leave, but quite understandable.
this was no political
Quoting Andrew McGlashan (andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au):
What if Katolaz gets hit by a bus?
Virtually done.
Katolaz got hit by a virtual bus. So this is kind of a crash test
for Devuan.
I hope Katolaz will come back some day and I'll have the
opportunity to meet
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 11 Apr 10:37:32 +0100
John Crisp via Dng scripsit:
> On 11/04/19 09:21, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > In the last ten days all those threee things have materialised, to
> > different degrees. Hence, I have decided to withdraw from Devuan and
> > will now take an indefinite leave
Il giorno giovedì 11/04/2019 13:27:08 +0200
Edward Bartolo ha scritto:
> It was surprising to me to read what Jaromil wrote in one of his
> replies regarding the April Fools prank. In short, the statement was
> that Devuan takes no responsibility whatever the outcome of its use.
What's
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 11 Apr 13:30:25 +0100
Rowland Penny via Dng scripsit:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:01:15 +0200
> Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> [...]
> I have said it before and I will say it again, the internet isn't
> really the place for an April fools joke, I saw the webpage on the
> 31st
On 11/04/19 16:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
Enzo, please enjoy your leave and come back soon. Speaking for
myself, you have my full and unreserved confidence.
..and mine.
And mine!
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 09:45:49AM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
> I believe that we should achieve an opinion poll somewhere where get
> registered the members that wish that KatolaZ return to the project.
Would be a nice show of support, but I think KatolaZ's opinion is
the only one
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:30:25 +0100, Rowland wrote in message
<20190411133025.60dab...@devstation.samdom.example.com>:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:01:15 +0200
> Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:27:08PM +0200, Edward Bartolo via Dng
> > wrote:
> >
> > > [ ... ] That
I believe that we should achieve an opinion poll somewhere where get
registered the members that wish that KatolaZ return to the project.
Best Regards
--
Ismael
Devuan User: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan
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Thank you - that *does* help. I did not know about that file or
directory. Issue solved.
On 4/11/19 10:24 AM, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
> For the issue n.2:
> Did you try to comment/delete the
> file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf ?
>
> Hope it helps.
> Antonio
>
> On Mon,
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 04:05:30 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<2019040530.gk15...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
>
> > In the last ten days all those threee things have materialised, to
> > different degrees. Hence, I have decided to withdraw from Devuan and
> > will
Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl):
>
>
> This is really too childish to be true.
No, Nick, it's human.
Daniel, I completely empathise with everything you just posted, and
appreciate your care and thoughtfulness. Having gotten to know you
along with
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> Fine. I accept your apologies Dan, but still believe this is not
> enough, now we have lost a major contributor and are in need of
> finding both sustainability and reliable agency. I am fully committed
> to the continued success of
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> As a starter for corporate respectability, please make sure your
> certificates are in order. Firefox tells me:
>
> Your connection is not secure
>
> The owner of devuan.pro has configured their website improperly. To
> protect your
- Original Message -
From: "Joril via Dng"
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [DNG] Way forward
On 11/04/19 16:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
Enzo, please enjoy your leave and come back soon. Speaking for
myself, you have my full and unreserved confidence.
..and
- Original Message -
From: "Joel Roth via Dng"
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [DNG] Way forward
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 09:45:49AM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
I believe that we should achieve an opinion poll somewhere where get
registered the
On Fri, 05 Apr 2019 15:21:06 +
chillfan--- via Dng wrote:
> Indeed there is Icecat that is DRM free.
>
> Iceweasel-UXP just covers some more of the criteria of what people
> would consider less frustrating or is closer to a real fork since
> they change things at the code level.
>
> It
On 11/04/2019 12:27, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
> It was surprising to me to read what Jaromil wrote in one of his
> replies regarding the April Fools prank. In short, the statement was
> that Devuan takes no responsibility whatever the outcome of its use.
Eh? That's exactly the same as most
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019, John Crisp via Dng wrote:
> So who out of the complainers is going to pick up the slack that they
> have caused?
well, one is a member of the caretakers: CenturionDan, who has
ultimately caused Katolaz to drop. It all happened within a private
thread related to the April's
On 11/04/2019 19:37, Jaromil wrote:
> well, one is a member of the caretakers: CenturionDan, who has
> ultimately caused Katolaz to drop. It all happened within a private
> thread related to the April's fool.
>
> I'm hereby asking CenturionDan out of the caretakers and will initiate
> a public and
dear dng'ers
all those of you who weren't there: you were missed!
this is a first report about our first conference
https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference
along with links to the stream for those who have missed it
in the coming days we'll publish edited (and in some cases
On 11/04/2019 09:21, KatolaZ wrote:
> I joined this project much before it was called Devuan, and I have
> always considered it a battle worth to be fought, day after day. I
> promised myself that I would have continued contributing to Devuan
> until the day we would have started talking corporate
On 11/04/2019 19:16, Jaromil wrote:
> dear dng'ers
>
> all those of you who weren't there: you were missed!
>
> this is a first report about our first conference
>
> https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference
Thanks.
It all looks very interesting. I hope that the funding possibilities
Hi!
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 11 Apr 20:37:03 +0200
Jaromil scripsit:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019, John Crisp via Dng wrote:
>
> > So who out of the complainers is going to pick up the slack that they
> > have caused?
>
> well, one is a member of the caretakers: CenturionDan, who has
> ultimately caused
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:27:08 +0200
Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
> It was surprising to me to read what Jaromil wrote in one of his
> replies regarding the April Fools prank. In short, the statement was
> that Devuan takes no responsibility whatever the outcome of its use.
Stop it Edward, this
Forwarding this mail to DNG too. I think this is relevant to the discussion.
Thanks!
--- Begin Message ---
On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 20:47 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> dear devs
>
> for having caused the distress of trust within the caretakers group
> beyond our agreed liabilities (see licensing
Nice!
Any chance of postings presentation slides as well as videos?
Miles Fidelman
On 4/11/19 2:16 PM, Jaromil wrote:
dear dng'ers
all those of you who weren't there: you were missed!
this is a first report about our first conference
https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference
along
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:46:13 +0300
Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 4/11/19 1:27 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > It was at least a perfect example that "politic correctness" takes
> > out the fun of everything. Sorry that KatolaZ decided to leave, but
> > quite understandable.
>
> this was no
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 16:19:38 +0200
Joril via Dng wrote:
> On 11/04/19 16:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> >> Enzo, please enjoy your leave and come back soon. Speaking for
> >> myself, you have my full and unreserved confidence.
> >
> > ..and mine.
> >
>
> And mine!
Mine too. And I think I
Quoting Mark Rousell (mark.rous...@signal100.com):
> If you want and/or need full support and recompense for failure, then
> by all means pay for a service provider to provide this. Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux is available, for example, and there are many
> consultancies whom you can pay to
On 11-04-19 22:33, Svante Signell via Dng wrote:
> Forwarding this mail to DNG too. I think this is relevant to the discussion.
>
> Thanks!
>
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> Have I missed something? I want Katolaz back.
> Who is CenturionDan? And why does he have that much power?
I am CenturionDan. I don't have any power over Devuan, and am only a
long time volunteer and contributor to this project.
I also like KatolaZ have been contributing to Devuan since
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:30:25 +0100
Rowland Penny via Dng wrote:
>
> I have said it before and I will say it again, the internet isn't
> really the place for an April fools joke,
Everyone knows that now, Roland, so let's just move on.
SteveT
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KatolaZ wrote:
> I joined this project much before it was called Devuan, and I have
> always considered it a battle worth to be fought, day after day. I
> promised myself that I would have continued contributing to Devuan
> until the day we would have started talking corporate bullshit, or
>
On 11/04/19 at 13:27, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
> It was surprising to me to read what Jaromil wrote in one of his
> replies regarding the April Fools prank. In short, the statement was
> that Devuan takes no responsibility whatever the outcome of its use.
Like all OSes do, both free and
On 11-04-19 23:38, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>> Have I missed something? I want Katolaz back.
>> Who is CenturionDan? And why does he have that much power?
> I am CenturionDan. I don't have any power over Devuan, and am only a
> long time volunteer and contributor to this project.
>
This is really
Quoting Edward Bartolo via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Although, I was not present in the conferences, I can imagine what was
> the problem. That prank was completely misplaced: as someone replied,
> one does not joke with security.
Ordinarily, I am in agreement with this view, but _details
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:21:06AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
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>
> Please forget this thread and do not waste any single bit on it: I
> will not read and I will not reply. If you have time to spare, use it
> to help Devuan in any way you can. Beowulf is very close, it will be a
> fantastic
On 11/04/19 at 13:05, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
>
>> In the last ten days all those threee things have materialised, to
>> different degrees. Hence, I have decided to withdraw from Devuan and
>> will now take an indefinite leave from the project.
> Enzo, please
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:21:06 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> I joined this project much before it was called Devuan, and I have
> always considered it a battle worth to be fought, day after day. I
> promised myself that I would have continued contributing to Devuan
> until the day we would have started
Fine. I accept your apologies Dan, but still believe this is not
enough, now we have lost a major contributor and are in need of
finding both sustainability and reliable agency. I am fully committed
to the continued success of this project beyond any personal interest
and believe we need to
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