Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread tom
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:08:37 + Mark Rousell wrote: > I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... > > On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: > > involves programming, and most people can't > > do that. > > > > Oh really? 12 lines of code and they can't do it (or have a friend >

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Sat, 14 Mar 23:54:07 -0700 tom scripsit: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:08:37 + > Mark Rousell wrote: > > > I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... > > > > On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: > > > involves programming, and most people can't > > > do that. >

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/15/20 9:35 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Sat, 14 Mar 23:54:07 -0700 > tom scripsit: >> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:08:37 + >> Mark Rousell wrote: >> >>> I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... >>> >>> On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: involves

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:08:37 + Mark Rousell wrote: > I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... > > On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: > > involves programming, and most people can't > > do that. > > > > Oh really? 12 lines of code and they can't do it (or have a friend >

[DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-15 Thread golinux
Dear dev1ers, The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos can be downloaded from: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/ ### What's new in Beowulf Changes in su - The behavior of su has changed. Use 'su -' to get

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:51:51 +0100 aitor wrote: > Hi, > > On 13/3/20 4:24, onefang wrote: > > After implementing some of their protocols, I started calling > > FreeDesktop.Org FatDesktop.Obscenities. > After reading some comments on this thread, i decided to develop also > another interface

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 13/3/20 1:59 pm, Steve Litt wrote: > It's called POSIX. With POSIX, I always have shellscripts, AWK and sort > ready to do my work for me. With POSIX, I can pipe a stdout into the > next stdin. With POSIX, I can plug in anything conforming to POSIX, > such as dmenu, a genius of a program

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 16/3/20 5:51 am, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > On 13/3/20 1:59 pm, Steve Litt wrote: >> It's called POSIX. With POSIX, I always have shellscripts, AWK and sort >> ready to do my work for me. With POSIX, I can pipe a stdout into the >> next stdin. With POSIX, I can plug in anything

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread tom
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:05:49 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Actually, we've got more to fear with hardware [and the lower level > firmware / EFI / SecureBoot / IME / vPro and other crap] these days > whether we avoid Winblows or not. > > The Intel and AMD flaws, Intel Management Engine

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 13:20:24 -0700 tom wrote: > My advice is to stop buying X86 in the future and invest in other > arches. I love that virtualization has come so far that I don't have to care what I run my stuff on. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-15 Thread tom
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:22:49 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Pulseaudio > - If you have no sound, make sure the following line in > /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf is commented as > shown here: > > #autospawn=no > > - Note that firefox-esr no longer requires

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 01:20:24PM -0700, tom wrote: > > But this may be a stop-gap if you /really/ need to get an X86 machine > you already have running. My advice is to stop buying X86 in the future > and invest in other arches. Like what the libre-risv / libre-soc project is working on (

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-15 Thread aitor
Hi Tom, On 15/3/20 21:23, tom wrote: Just wanted to ask, not a huge deal to uninstall it by hand, but why isn't pulseaudio removed by default? Because a vanilla installation of devuan is basically like a vanilla installation of debian without systemd. Cheers, Aitor.