Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

. - - ... Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.de Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJVllIpAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasPyoL

Re: [DNG] vi for beginners

started on a new computer where I did not check the editor settings. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.de Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Mi den 15. Jul 2015 um 16:27 schrieb John Crisp: On 15/07/15 17:14, Klaus Ethgen wrote: mc respectible mcedit is also a pain in the a... How often did I loose stuff due to the editor.. I have to damit that I used it sometimes 25 years

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

- -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.de Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJVpoWCAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasgM0L/3qhehc6yw4/XcWPEPB

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

- -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.de Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJVpni5AAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasUGoL/1mb61jqf6WeAgPl

[DNG] Answering in the list

-posting - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.de Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJVpopZAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasdjML

Re: [DNG] Devuan and oss(4)

then help integrating them back > in Devuan. I have noaccess to that. But see ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian/dists/ceres/ and ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian/pool/unofficial/w/wine-development/ Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 40

Re: [DNG] Devuan and oss(4)

that site as the TLSA-Certificate does not match the CA I get from it. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B

[DNG] Devuan and oss(4)

or if it follows debian in only supporting one (non-working) sound system. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06

[DNG] SSL certificate on devuan.org invalid

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, the SSL certificate for website devuan.org is invalid again and does not match the one in TLSA record. Could you please fix it? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R

Re: [DNG] Devuan and oss(4)

ng, maintaining oss4 packages? Currently I stay in contact to the debian maintainer as the dkms package works fine but not the standalone kernel package. I have a self maintained version already on my server reenabling it. Nevertheless it is not optimal. Am Fr den 3. Feb 2017 um 9:34 schrieb Arnt

Re: [DNG] SSL certificate on devuan.org invalid

. But as it is right now, the page is worse than not existing. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEG

Re: [DNG] SSL certificate on devuan.org invalid

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi folks, Am Di den 31. Jan 2017 um 19:35 schrieb Klaus Ethgen: > the SSL certificate for website devuan.org is invalid again and does not > match the one in TLSA record. That problem gets serious now. I even cannot access www.devuan.org a

[DNG] rsyslog on ceres

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi folks, recently, I tried to install rsyslog on ceres. Unfortunately I found it uninstallable due to a dependency to unavailable liblognorm2. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub

[DNG] TLSA certificate on https://git.devuan.org/

0A3 Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: I

[DNG] reportbug

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Folks (again ;-), is there any plan to get reportbug working in devuan too? It is one of the thinks I liked debian more than other distributions that using horrible bugzilla or even worse, launchpad. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen

[DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

of the outcome. But then, this Biebl sees it and closed it right away with a ignorant note. It is really hard to not get personal to him via mail. Luckily I didn't had to do with Pötering. I expect him the same. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http

Re: [DNG] reportbug

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Mo den 28. Nov 2016 um 16:40 schrieb Jaromil: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > is there any plan to get reportbug working in devuan too? It is one of > > the thinks I liked debian more than other distribut

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

nd lvm). But udev uses ps internal and ps is, in new debians, linked against libsystemd and libsystemd depends on libraries in /usr. And Biebl in his divine wisdom just closed the bug report as wontfix. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.c

[DNG] bindeb-pkg (Was: Won't boot after dist-upgrade)

need a way to build them too. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

[DNG] HTTPS

Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMW

Re: [DNG] Recommended location for iptables rules

ps, samba, ntp, rpcbind and some other bad designed tools that default listen on 0.0.0.0 and that are pulled in with a common linux desktop installation. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus E

Re: [DNG] Systemd-Illness in procps.

that aggressively. And look at the costs. It pulls in all the systemd environment just for a ps!? It breaks several usecases. Not to mention, why such daemons like tor or stunnel need to be linked against systemd. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.eth

[DNG] Systemd-Illness in procps.

. But not important as the procps as that is killing systems in the end. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06

Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

ght it is processed by MTA directly. > You should have already received a confirmation email from the BTS > saying that the bug has been received and processed. Yes. However, it didn't process my Severity. Nice think, it has bug number 53 and is about DNS(SEC). :-) Regards

Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

SA is not working) So are there metapackages for website? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF

Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

ill now open a > bug on reportbug :) Well, I created that mail manually by using the same pseudo headers reportbug does as I wrote it on a system where I cannot install the devuan reportbug right now. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Moreover, it raises the attack vector from one password to two. That stupid use of sudo (That was initialize introduced by ubuntu) should have an end. Another think is if (or not) you should allow login as root via password at all. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen

[DNG] Why I don't want to have Pöttersoft on my system

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644 No further comment needed. Have fun reading. (Found on popular fefe blog) Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05

Re: [DNG] Fwd: init system agnosticism [WAS: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system]

depend on libsystemd-dev that is starting to depend on systemd itself. But this libsystemd-dev dependency is not needed at all. Other think, did you ever try to deinstall libsystemd0? It will deinstall many other packages; at least on ceres. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen

Re: [DNG] Announcing the git.devuan.org connection

Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1

Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

;250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 776B018BF8E" Regards Klaus -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C --- Begin Message --- -BE

Re: [DNG] apt-get update issues today

sometimes, deinstall stuff instead installing alternative libraries. About dist-upgrade, there is something in-between. Try `apt upgrade`, what is something like `apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade`. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ p

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

d never work. su does not transmit the X connection (don't know > the details). You got to use gksu or gksudo, or some equivalent command. > With just su you can only use the CLI parted. Not true. That is the job of pam_xauth.so. Just use it as session plugin in pam. Gruß

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

rsions was just broken. (With later versions of udev the system would not reboot and heavy boot delays of 10 minutes and more) This eudev package just work and it feels faster than udev 215-18. If you ever come to the area of Zürich, I owe you a beer or two. :-) Regards Klaus - -

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

Klaus [0] ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian/pool/unofficial/l/lvm2 [1] deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian ceres unofficial [2] deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian-security ceres unofficial-secured - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16

[DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

- -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMW

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

upgrade > the package though. Well, The problem is that I _did_ an upgrade and ended with a unbootable system. I had to boot with grml and installed version 2.02.173-1 what fixed the problem. ldd do show the dependencies to /usr if you want to check yourself. Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

Am Di den 7. Nov 2017 um 17:00 schrieb Klaus Ethgen: > > So, could you please also file a bug report in Devuan with a link to > > Debian's bug report? Use bugs.devuan.org for that. > > Done. Hmm... Doesn't seem to work. I sent the attached mail but nothing happened. Regards

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

. > In this particular case it's a bit irritating, it could be fixed by moving > liblz4 to /lib or by not linking the various lvm2 binaries against > libsystemd. Well, yes, the proper solution would be to not ling against libsystemd. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Di den 7. Nov 2017 um 16:21 schrieb John Hughes: > On 07/11/17 15:29, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > > today I suffered by a heavy bug in lvm2. With version 2.02.175-1 it > > starts to depend on library in /usr. > > Which bina

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

l, nothing should depend on libsystemd. liblz4 is not needed by lvm. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 #157 Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C

[DNG] Ansible (and probably other configuration management systems) and Devuan facts

n_facts['distribution_major_version'] = release2.groups()[0] +debian_facts['distribution_version'] = release2.groups()[0] elif 'Ubuntu' in data: debian_facts['distribution'] = 'Ubuntu' # nothing else to do, Ubuntu gets correct i

Re: [DNG] Solved: Can't disable touchpad under openbox (karl schattschneider)

bled' 0 Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1

Re: [DNG] Suspend

Gnome on it, ... But who want's that? For my setup with fvwm, to watch movies or use a browser or do some hacking it is way enough. And Firefox is even slow on my i7, There is not that much performance difference on that laptops. Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen

[DNG] Suspend

that prevent a clean suspend. Any one an idea? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEG

[DNG] Grave bug in procps, depending on systemd

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, The new procps 2:3.3.12-4 depend on systemd what leads to a unbootable system. I already filed a bug but had to do manually as reportbug wanted to send to debian. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http

Re: [DNG] Grave bug in procps, depending on systemd

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, please answer on the list. Am So den 11. Feb 2018 um 8:59 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 08:50:09AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > The new procps 2:3.3.12-4 depend on systemd what leads to a unbootable > > system. &

[DNG] Debian systemd arrogance

Hurd and FreeBSD." and "Surprising as it might sound, there are still computers using the traditional Sys V init system" Regards Klaus [0] http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_SysVinit_upstream_project_just_migrated_to_git.html - -- Klaus Ethgen

Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

info come from, that it should > enable eth0? Does it come from udevd? Are you sure that there is no entry for in /etc/network/interfaces.d/*? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <

Re: [DNG] Ascii packages with dependency on libsystemd0 ?

bove. You can, of course also build them yourself, I have the full sources over there. deb ftp://tschil.ethgen.ch/pub/debian-security ceres unofficial-secured deb-src ftp://tschil.ethgen.ch/pub/debian-security ceres unofficial-secured Regards Klaus - -- Kla

[DNG] Broken suspend to ram (Was: Summary of investigations on Lid open/close in ASCII)

Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMW

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

; more portable which can replace it? Well, I use gpg-agent instead of ssh-agent. That is a better way to handle keys and allows more control for about how long you allow the keys/pass to get cached. And gpg-agent uses pinentry that is available in many flavours. Regards Klaus - -

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

[0] deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian-security sid unofficial-secured - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [DNG] Why no ipv6 privacy extensions?

l, if you install a router/server, you want to explicitly disable privacy extension. That is more secure as the other way around. On my router, I have the following rules: -A FORWARD -o eth0 -m eui64 -j log_REJECT Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://w

[DNG] Unbound and EUI addresses

iface eth0 inet6 auto privext 2 ... (you can also use "pre-up /sbin/sysctl --quiet --write net.ipv6.conf.eth0.use_tempaddr=2" instead of privext. Currently I have no more ideas how to solve that. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http

[DNG] procps

from devuan, it pull in all systemd dependencies. Could you please fix that again? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B

[DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

if it is not needed or - - Move that libraries to /lib I will also file a bug report. But give me some time to find out how, or is the reportbug tool now usable? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

that to break all installations with separate /usr. In fact, that package damages your whole system sustainably. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 C

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am So den 1. Apr 2018 um 9:59 schrieb Klaus Ethgen: [libpopt and libargon] > I run ceres. ascii is not affected. In fact, debian did intentional break libpopt as the version in ascii installs to /lib but the version in ceres installs to /

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sorry, resend to dng@lists.dyne.org Am Fr den 30. Mär 2018 um 20:29 schrieb Alessandro Selli: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 at 15:22:21 +0100 > Klaus Ethgen <klaus+d...@ethgen.ch> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-