[DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
Media partitioning, formatting Configure mountpoints Install Bootloader Install Kernel, Modules & Firmware Install Shell & package management software Configure console Configure network Boot Discuss... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

2018-12-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/12/2018 15:22, KatolaZ wrote: [snip] > > Please find below the stats of the actual number of downloads of each > ASCII image according to https://files.devuan.org in the last 14 days > (without taking into account the other 24 ISO mirrors): > > - netinst: 149 > - DVD ISO:

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 18/12/2018 03:48, Steve Litt wrote: > [snip] > Perhaps reframing it would make a difference. Perhaps renaming the > second program "Install Software" (install_software), and having it > boot into install_software, would satisfy all but the most > windows-phobic that the sum of the two programs

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
[snip] > > You are confusing a simple config file that is read once and for all > during boot time (the config file on raspberry pis) with the complete > installation of a new system. They are not even comparable. There is > no thing like "oh I re-run the installer configuration to change the >

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 18/12/2018 13:19, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:51:53PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:28:43 +0100 >> KatolaZ wrote: > >> Also, Hendrik is right: If the bootable installer >> finds information, it should be saved for the secondary installer to >> use. >

[DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
I often have difficulty with correct terminology despite having a very definite idea. The term 'Installer' applies to the first stage actions taken outside of the package manager such as partitioning, formatting, bootloader and kernel... which actually make the build host bootable. There 'may' be

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
> > I still fail understanding what you mean by "Program 2". It's called, > maybe, just "apt-get" or "synaptic". > OK, um.. take tasksel, clone it into two. In tasksel one [1], keep everything that is NOT optional (and is stateful). Partitioning, formatting, kernel, bootloader, package manager

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-21 Thread g4sra via Dng
> Here's a video showing how to create an encrypted partition using the > manual partitioning step in the installer. You probably did it wrong. > Don't feel bad - I did it wrong three times before I got it right for > the video, and I've done this before. >

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 16/12/2018 12:28, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:08:10AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > You see: in just two emails we have come from a *minimal* base > installation (a shell with a kernel, a bootloader, and a working > dpkg/apt) to a fully-functioning network server

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 16/12/2018 20:06, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:11:25PM +0000, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> That is my issue, focus has been lost on what an 'Installer' should do. >> A great deal is performed at install time that falls into the domain of

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 17/12/2018 00:41, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 16/12/18 at 13:28, KatolaZ wrote: >> automagic disk encryption, > > >   Well, if you cannot install on an encrypted root, encrypting it later > is a real PITA. > >   The present impossibility of installing ASCII on an encrypted root is > a

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/11/2019 20:53, tom wrote: > On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 16:55:34 +0100 > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > >> Anno domini 2019 Fri, 8 Nov 16:36:24 +0100 >> Joril via Dng scripsit: >>> On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: >>>> FYI: ext4 f

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/11/2019 15:36, Joril via Dng wrote: > On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled by default >> on SD\SDHC media. > > To reduce wear? There is good documentation 'out there' about how SD\SDHC Flash

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled by default on SD\SDHC media. On 08/11/2019 14:46, Joril via Dng wrote: > On 27/10/19 03:32, tom wrote: > >> The defaults on the linux kernel flags have the options >> rootflags=noload. This has the effect of disabling ext4

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi build - missing lines in /proc/cpuinfo

2019-12-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/12/2019 21:55, Wojtek Sawaściuk via Dng wrote: > Hello fellow Devuaners ! > Any particular reason why on raspberry PI build, in /proc/cpuinfo there > are missing information about "model name" , bigger half of "Features" > line, "Hardware" , "Revision" and "Serial". > It breaks compliance

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/12/2019 21:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 10:45:46PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: >> On Monday 09 December 2019 at 22:38:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >>> I have an sd card that used to be in an android phone. >>> My usual tools tell me very little: >>> >>> root@midwinter:~#

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
No the intent is not to infest GNU/Linux with bugs. RedHat's aims have not changed from when they first introduced SystemD and they are achieving them on target which is why IBM bought in. It is to become the only Distro regardless of name, in effect the SystemD Operating System. Canonical had

Re: [DNG] fifth freedom

2019-12-18 Thread g4sra via Dng
> The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor lock-in > through appropriate modularization/encapsulation and minimized dependencies; > meaning any free software can be replaced with a user’s preferred > alternatives (freedom 4). Late to the party as usual FOSS and the

Re: [DNG] Update successful but video card issue

2020-02-01 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 01/02/2020 10:11, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 31/01/2020 à 13:50, g4sra via Dng a écrit : >> Do not be fooled into thinking blacklisting stops a module from being >> loaded, ensure you rebuild the initrd\initramfs without the driver. > >     Dunno if graphics driver

Re: [DNG] Update successful but video card issue

2020-01-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
1) Dont bin your video card, it is unlikely to help in the long run. On my (cough! yes I know but I did have valid reasons) Fedora system, I have been battling with Nvidia & Xorg drivers for years, they are certainly no better than AMD support wise. My system is currently broken, turns out the

Re: [DNG] Tried Debian Stretch with systemd out of constrainsts

2020-01-11 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 11/01/2020 21:15, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On January 11, 2020 9:18:09 PM GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo via Dng > wrote: > >> Knowing the vendor ID and the Product ID I should be able to >> communicate with the oscilloscope. Any ideas how this can be done? > > > Out of couriosity, I just

Re: [DNG] Tried Debian Stretch with systemd out of constrainsts

2020-01-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 10/01/2020 17:28, Andreas Messer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:04:28PM +0100, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: >> [...] >> >> I still have yet not figured out how to avoid having to use snapd and >> install the firmware for the oscilloscope, Hantek 6000B (USB). I have >> successfully

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/12/2019 07:47, Rick Moen wrote: [snip] Thanks Rick, I appreciate that chain of summaries and the time it has saved now not having to dig through archives. Email has probably got to be one of my weakest areas of knowlege, I have learnt something today. When drawing my own conclusions I pay

Re: [DNG] Current state of VPN software ?

2020-04-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/04/2020 21:21, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 8 Apr 21:14:05 +0100 > Simon Hobson scripsit: >> It's been a while since I last did anything with VPNs on Linux, and I recall >> there being 3 options, some of which were "less well supported" than others. >> I'm looking to

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/04/2020 14:23, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Tue, 7 Apr 13:07:47 + > dal scripsit: >>> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of g4sra via Dng >>> Sent: den 7 april 2020 14:31 >> >>> zoom is not an evil company, un

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 06/04/2020 23:24, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 05:10:48PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Only one issue so far, had to manually run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' after >> reboot. > > You might want to add to bug 419, so the devs are aware that more than

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/04/2020 09:48, Tomasz Kundera via Dng wrote: > Zoom has dedicated clients for Debian. It works in ascii at least. Personal experiences.. zoom became more stable after upgrading from ascii to beowulf. zoom would\will not launch from firefox, no issues launching from terminal and manually

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-06 Thread g4sra via Dng
Minimal install from CD-Rom devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_i386_netinstall.iso on Pentium4 OK. Only one issue so far, had to manually run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' after reboot. On 15/03/2020 16:22, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear dev1ers, > > The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for

Re: [DNG] Help needed:[Fwd: eudev: Methods to detect if running in a container.]

2020-03-30 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 30/03/2020 16:18, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Svante, > > On 19/2/20 15:17, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: >> Hello, >> >> No replies so far from the devuan-dev list. Maybe with a larger audience I >> can >> get some help! >> >> Thanks! > Checking� whether the *inode* number of the primary

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 26/04/2020 21:13, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/26/20 6:54 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Apt refused to acknowledge that the package even existed. > > 1) > # wget > http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb

[DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf. Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the repository ? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
t it from ;) > > On 26/04/2020 12:15, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Just had an issue migrating to Devuan Beowulf. >> Where was I *supposed* to obtain the devuan-keyring from to authenticate the >> repository ? >> ___ >> Dn

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 26/04/2020 15:09, Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 26 April 2020 at 16:02:00, g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote: >>> Try this: >>> >>> https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ >> >> Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, re

Re: [DNG] waagent

2020-04-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/04/2020 15:28, Peter Duffy wrote: > (Apologies if I've posted this to the wrong list - shall I repost it to > the devuan-dev list?) > > On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 15:21 +0100, Peter Duffy wrote: >> I'm currently setting up a virtualbox image based on Devuan ASCII, for >> eventual upload to azure

[DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics 'killing init' on Devuan. Has anybody else experienced this ? The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository executables (init) are compiled as PIE. Any suggestions to further the diagnosis of this issue

Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 17/05/2020 20:26, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 17 May 13:20:13 +0100 > g4sra via Dng scripsit: >> I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics >> 'killing init' on Devuan. >> Has anybody else experienced this ? >>

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-21 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 21/05/2020 21:24, Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > >> When a company takes action to increase its share of the market and/or >> its cash flow, we normally do not call that a conspiration. It is >> legitimate to write about it and discuss the actions it takes. >

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/10/2020 04:30, Simon Walter wrote: > On 2020-10-05 11:23, tom wrote: > ... >> >> I would appreciate if we kept this on-board unless needed. Never know >> when someone in the future might find it useful. >> > > I would appreciate that too! > Current issue.. loop device not accessible...

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 05/10/2020 16:50, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Hi Tom, Mason, Anybody else... > > Beowulf lxc 1:3.1.0+really3.0.3-8 amd64 is broken. > > Simple test I picked up from the internet: > > ~# lxc-usernsexec > Failed to find subuid or subgid allocation --snip-- > > Consi

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 05/10/2020 17:22, Hendrik Boom wrote: --snip-- > > No practical experience. > But is there any chance lxc can play nicely with random USB devices? Or > the built-in camera and microphone? Never tried, not got that far. Importing (is that the correct jargon?) a device into a LXC Container

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-06 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 06/10/2020 04:36, tom wrote: > On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:30:10 +0100 > g4sra via Dng wrote: --snip-- > > Unprivileged containers I still have not figured out how to generate. If you would like I may be able to give guidance on generating them in Devuan. You would have

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 05/10/2020 03:23, tom wrote: > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 11:04:23 +0100 > g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> I am seeking any Devuaners with an interest in lxc to bounce ideas >> off. -- snip -- > > Hello grsra, I run LXC on Devuan, and have done so even through the > ascii-&

Re: [DNG] Crontab depends on Anachron which is not installed by default?

2020-10-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 10/10/2020 15:38, Mike Tubby wrote: > All, > > I've just discovered that my various Devuan systems aren't running cron.daily > or cron.weekly tasks because /etc/crontab performs a test on anacron being > present. Not quite... cron will NOT run if anacron IS installed AND IS executable. If

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 10/10/2020 21:47, Simon Walter wrote: > On 2020-10-08 21:08, g4sra via Dng wrote: >-- snip -- >> >> Anybody enlighten me about the meaning of the phrase... >> >> 'The controller seems to be unused by "cgfsng" cgroup driver or not enabled >> on

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-11 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 11/10/2020 02:52, Simon Walter wrote: --snip-- > I use Qemu/KVM for Windows development. I currently use Qemu/KVM for customising\slipstreaming Windows installation image, everything else Windows related I do in a VM is just playing. Ever taken a look at ReactOS ? > What is your use case for

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-06 Thread g4sra via Dng
>> Can I put attachments on emails to the dyne mailing lists? > No idea, so I attached one to see what would happen... The attachment showed up, you might as well run it and post the output (on the list or direct, whichever you prefer) to give me a starting reference.

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
Hi Tom, Mason, Anybody else... Beowulf lxc 1:3.1.0+really3.0.3-8 amd64 is broken. Simple test I picked up from the internet: ~# lxc-usernsexec Failed to find subuid or subgid allocation On a host configured for unprivileged containers it should drop you into unprivileged 'root' mode:

Re: [DNG] measure memory usage

2020-08-23 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 22/08/2020 16:03, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:47:53AM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> Your query does not make sense to me. >> >> On 21/08/2020 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage? >&g

Re: [DNG] measure memory usage

2020-08-22 Thread g4sra via Dng
Your query does not make sense to me. On 21/08/2020 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage? > > Something perhaps like the C functions that were available in the dark > ages on other computer systems that could tell how much memory had > been

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 23/08/2020 14:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: > There are files and directories. > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > for something which might be a file or a directory? Directories are just files that contain file metadata information in a format specific to the filesystem

Re: [DNG] Complete system HDD encryption w/o LLVM.

2020-09-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/09/2020 15:27, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:58:42PM +0700, Андрей via Dng wrote: > >> Question is, Is it possible to to achieve same goal without LLVM -- >> i.e. to partition system HDD with fdisk, and then still have full >> encryption? > > Yes, or at least,

Re: [DNG] Complete system HDD encryption w/o LLVM.

2020-09-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/09/2020 14:58, Андрей via Dng wrote: > Question is, Is it possible to to achieve same goal without LLVM -- > i.e. to partition system HDD with fdisk, and then still have full > encryption? Luks encrypt the whole HDD or a large partition first then overlay LVM to get resizeable volumes and

Re: [DNG] problem with KDE/plasma on Beowulf / pulseaudio too

2020-09-28 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 28/09/2020 02:29, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:35:55AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: >> On 27/9/20 13:59, g4sra via Dng wrote: >>> I have reservations about where QT5 is going, despite any issue with >>> pulseaudio, now might be a good time to jump shi

Re: [DNG] Complete system HDD encryption w/o LLVM.

2020-09-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/09/2020 19:05, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 04:02:35PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > >> Copy /boot over onto / >> * rebuild the initramfs in the NEW /boot on / * >> ^^^ > ^^^ you will need to hack the initramfs-tools scripts or they w

Re: [DNG] problem with KDE/plasma on Beowulf / pulseaudio too

2020-09-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 27/09/2020 11:25, . via Dng wrote: --snip-- > so I resigned myself to using LXQT instead > of KDE. I have reservations about where QT5 is going, despite any issue with pulseaudio, now might be a good time to jump ship. I second 'TDE' (about as KDE as you can get without the nastiness), as has

Re: [DNG] mssh not working (Chimaera)

2020-10-02 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 02/10/2020 15:09, Dimitri Minaev via Dng wrote: -- snip -- > If you could offer an alternative that provides synchronized input to a > number of SSH sessions, I'd be glad to hear your opinion. I know that > similar capabilities are found in Terminator and my favorite Konsole, but > they are not

[DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-03 Thread g4sra via Dng
I am seeking any Devuaners with an interest in lxc to bounce ideas off. I wish to move to multi-fully-containerised development but am repeatedly stumbling along the way. Unfortunately the official lxc resources do not help much with the (systemd-less) issues I am having. I find bouncing

[DNG] FYI: TDE and Knotify crash

2020-05-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
Just suffered knotify crash with Trinity Desktop Environment on a new build. The fix for me was to oust consolekit in favor of elogind. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 09/08/2020 16:55, Haines Brown wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2020 at 02:53:13PM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: >> 3) abort if the mount fails >> [ $? -eq 0 ] || {echo "Mount Failed!"; exit 1;} > > I put this line into my backup script and only got a syntax error. My

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > >> Post your backup script for others to look over. > > > #!/bin/bash > a="=" > b="Start: " > c=$(date) > mount /mnt/backup & 1) Don't

Re: [DNG] How to mount NTFS

2020-08-08 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 08/08/2020 14:53, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 07/08/2020 21:01, Haines Brown wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 06:34:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > E.g. /etc/fstab >/dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 That should be /dev/XXX /mnt/backup ntfs-3g defa

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-15 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 15/06/2020 05:33, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Am 2020-06-14 22:54, schrieb g4sra via Dng: >> How do you know the mount is failing ? > > It's not mounted after mount command. I have not seen any evidence of that, can you point

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-15 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 15/06/2020 12:59, richard lucassen via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:48:16 +0100 > g4sra via Dng wrote: > >>>> How do you know the mount is failing ? >>> >>> It's not mounted after mount command. >> >> I have not seen any evidence o

Re: [DNG] eudev-related problems after Beowulf upgrade

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 15:05, David Kuehling via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded three machines from Devuan ascii to Devuan beowulf. Now one > of these machines has non-deterministic problems during startup that > look like being related to eudev. As that machine was originally > derived by cloning the

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, Hi, I know *nothing* about Odroid > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal > flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 12/06/2020 16:01, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. Since it's internal > flash disk is limited, I run it with an external usb drive attached. > When this disk is active in /etc/fstab the boot process hangs forever. I can > ping it, so

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-14 Thread g4sra via Dng
-- snip -- > Only mounting the filesystem fails. How do you know the mount is failing ? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/10/2020 18:31, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > The problem is a bit weired: > > I did install Beowulf 3.0 had some problems nothing i could not fix, > then i tried to install gcc via apt-get install gcc > > > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/10/2020 18:19, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: >> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my >> local resolver lately. It's pleasant. > > From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I clearly > do not trust that technology. Too bad: it was

[DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote: > On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: --snip-- >> To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migrate them to >> docker containers. I wonder people on this list have experience on this >> subject? > > > You might want to take a look at

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-11 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, June 11th, 2021 at 2:58 PM, Fred wrote: > On 6/10/21 11:29 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: <--snip--> > > I did find the man page for udisks. I will study that and the article > for autofs. Likely one of them will work fine. The intended use 'autofs' is

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-15 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. <--snip--> apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-vo gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/systemd/user/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.service publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com -

Re: [DNG] package search methods was ( USB mount problem)

2021-06-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
On Wednesday, June 16th, 2021 at 1:59 AM, Fred wrote: > On 6/15/21 1:24 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > <--snip--> > > > Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. > > > <--snip--> > > > apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-v

Re: [DNG] halt

2021-06-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, June 10th, 2021 at 8:37 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > I am researching the behavior of halt on various Linux distros. They > seem to be inconsistent. > halt has different man pages: > In ascii: > " > AUTHOR > Miquel van Smoorenburg, miqu...@cistron.nl >

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-13 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > > > > > > The udisksd man page says the daemon is started by dbus-daemon or > > > systemd. However, it is not started by inserting a USB device. > > > tried starting it manually (with USB device inserted) and received > > > this: > > > > > > root@aragog:/home/fred#

[DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

2021-05-24 Thread g4sra via Dng
I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs which is then sent to Chinese servers. I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent solution. Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com -

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:42 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan. > The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in > the default repos. > > After installing it on

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > > I sympathise, but am not sure this would (currently) be the best use of > > resources. > > There is an ever growing list of packaged applications that do not function > > without SystemD. > > If every one were identified, then removal of all from the repos may be > > justified.

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 31, 2021 8:25 PM, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > I received this e-mail yesterday, and again today: > > --- > > exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on quixote.home has non-zero size, mail >

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 31, 2021 8:43 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:37:30, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > Is deleting the paniclog the proper way to stop receiving these e-mails? > > > > No, don't delete it, empty it,

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread g4sra via Dng
Thanks for chirping in Mark. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:37 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there. > > If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency. > > If the dependency were present, amprolla

Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio

2021-07-03 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> Configure Alsa to use the 'dmix' plugin, RT(not so)FM. publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio

2021-07-03 Thread g4sra via Dng
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 12:21:31 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > <--snip--> > > Configure Alsa to use the 'dmix' plugin, RT(not so)FM. > Er dbmix in chimaera. Thanks. 'dmix' is part of Alsa. > RT? FM? Read The Fine Manual ~ go to the Alsa website an

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-04-30 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> > Hi, > by looking at the latest git code: > > static const struct op operators[] ALIGN_PTR = { > #if ENABLE_FEATURE_DC_LIBM > {"^", power}, > // {"exp", power}, > // {"pow", power}, > #endif > {"%", mod}, > // {"mod", mod}, > // logic ops are not standard, remove? > {"and", and}, >

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-04-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 29, 2021 2:59 AM, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day All, > > I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a script in my > initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge change in behaviour in > the busybox

Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9

2021-02-05 Thread g4sra via Dng
ry 4, 2021 6:59 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng > > dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > Thanks for the reply Florian > > > > > Am 4. Februar 2021 18:15:06 MEZ schrieb g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org: > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to re-enable a Synaptics

Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-26 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, March 26, 2021 12:26 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 26 March 2021 at 13:07:08, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS: <<--snip--> Quote from Debian's page "consider the

Re: [DNG] Remote two-way sound?

2021-03-28 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:22 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Saturday, March 27, 2021 5:32 PM, Antony Stone > antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it wrote: > > > On Saturday 27 March 2021 at 17:29:56,

Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem

2021-04-01 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:53 PM, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: <--snip--> > > Working through the following page: > > https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html > > I get to > > $ python2 extract_firmware.py # this script is for python 2 only

Re: [DNG] Remote two-way sound?

2021-03-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 27, 2021 5:32 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 27 March 2021 at 17:29:56, tito via Dng wrote: > > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:36:46 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know of a remote access mechanism which supports two-way

Re: [DNG] Package Repository Issue

2021-03-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:06 PM, aitor wrote: > Hi Tony, > > On 27/3/21 19:24, Tony Thedford wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Seems to be an issue on the package mirrors regarding i686 packages today. > > I get the following errors about a missing public

Re: [DNG] Package Repository Issue

2021-03-27 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 27, 2021 10:37 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:06 PM, aitor wrote: > > > Hi Tony, > > > > On 27/3/21 19:24, Tony Thedford wrote: > >

Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-28 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:59 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: <-snip-> > > Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download the correct > package manually, and install with dpkg -i? You don't say what the 'correct' package is that you wish to

Re: [DNG] Jitsi-meet server in DMZ

2021-03-12 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 6:56 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > > > The meeting being hosted on the server needs to be simultaneously > > > > accessible as two different domains,

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
<--snip--> With your removable drive attached and mounted... Paste the outputs of 'mount' and 'df' when run as root. publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please [SOLVED] ish

2021-03-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 1:00 PM, al3xu5 wrote: > Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:01:53 + - g4sra g4...@protonmail.com: > > > It turns out 80 of the issue was a syntax error in the ALSA > > configuration. For an unknown reason this mostly only caused an issue > > for

[DNG] Jitsi-meet server in DMZ

2021-03-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
The meeting being hosted on the server needs to be simultaneously accessible as two different domains, internal.com and external.com. Anyone achieved this yet or know a better way ? publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description:

Re: [DNG] Upgrade from buster to beowulf, runlevels are goofed

2021-03-21 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:07 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 21 March 2021 at 10:57:46, Erich Minderlein via Dng wrote: > > > In the times of SuSE 7.0 to 7.3 I used runlevels to control a server with > > attached thin clients. The users on the system

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-16 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:32 PM, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: On 3/16/21 2:32 AM, g4sra via Dng wrote: --snip-- With your removable drive attached and mounted... Paste the outputs of 'mount' and 'df' when run as root. The drive in question is /dev

Re: [DNG] Jitsi-meet server in DMZ

2021-03-09 Thread g4sra via Dng
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:00 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 14:18:34 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > The meeting being hosted on the server needs to be simultaneously > > accessible as

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