Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
On Saturday, August 28th, 2021 at 12:55 PM, hal wrote: > On 8/23/21 19:40, terryc wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 11:20:27 -0500 > > hal vmli...@charter.net wrote > > > > Thanks, I finally got this working yesterday. > > Care to share your set up? > Sure, glad to. I made a pastebin for it here since it would become unreadable > posted to the list: https://pastebin.com/XrXtAfPX > My setup (cat /proc/asound/cards): > 0) PCH - external speakers/microphone plugged into back of computer > 1. Nvidia - I suppose HDMI audio route or something > 2. Logitech USB wireless headset with microphone > - I use "xhost +" to allow various users below to run gui on my login. I do > not have the X TCP socket listening so remote access to X is blocked. Could > be another way to do this I dunno. > - my /dev/snd/* devices are chmod 660 for the "audio" group and all users > are members > The problems I have is multiple applications need to access the audio > device concurrently but it does not work (until now): > I have no sound in Firefox so sometimes I need to run Palemoon or Chrome for > any kind of multimedia content which needs sound (ffs Firefox.. an FOSS > embarrassment). Sort of unrelated but it part of the root cause of all this Install 'apulse' which are a sort of pulseaudio compatability libraries. > > 2) > When I run a web browser, I use a launcher script with sudo to run the > browser as "firefox" user. This user cannot play audio if another application > has alsa "locked" > > 3) > Sometime I want to play MP3s on my disk. I run VLC with my login account. I > cannot hear any music if the firefox user has a web browser open. > > 4) > When I launch Steam, a launcher script runs sudo to run Steam as "steamuser". > If another application has audio device open, there is no sound in Steam > games. This may (and I do mean 'may') be your Desktop not releasing the audio devices, google that for your specific desktop to find out how to make it release them when you launch steam. > End result: this mostly works now! Thank you guys/gals! I can share the > Logitech headset between Mumble and Steam (Valheim) applications when both > are run as the "steamuser". Sharing the same device between DIFFERENT users > does NOT work though and maybe not possible I don't know (eg: using Mumble on > headset then trying to play Youtube video as "firefox" user). publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
On 8/23/21 19:40, terryc wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 11:20:27 -0500 hal wrote: Thanks, I finally got this working yesterday. Care to share your set up? Sure, glad to. I made a pastebin for it here since it would become unreadable posted to the list: https://pastebin.com/XrXtAfPX My setup (cat /proc/asound/cards): 0) PCH - external speakers/microphone plugged into back of computer 1) Nvidia - I suppose HDMI audio route or something 2) Logitech USB wireless headset with microphone * I use "xhost +" to allow various users below to run gui on my login. I do not have the X TCP socket listening so remote access to X is blocked. Could be another way to do this I dunno. * my /dev/snd/* devices are chmod 660 for the "audio" group and all users are members The problems I have is multiple applications need to access the audio device concurrently but it does not work (until now): 1) I have no sound in Firefox so sometimes I need to run Palemoon or Chrome for any kind of multimedia content which needs sound (ffs Firefox.. an FOSS embarrassment). Sort of unrelated but it part of the root cause of all this 2) When I run a web browser, I use a launcher script with sudo to run the browser as "firefox" user. This user cannot play audio if another application has alsa "locked" 3) Sometime I want to play MP3s on my disk. I run VLC with my login account. I cannot hear any music if the firefox user has a web browser open. 4) When I launch Steam, a launcher script runs sudo to run Steam as "steamuser". If another application has audio device open, there is no sound in Steam games. End result: this mostly works now! Thank you guys/gals! I can share the Logitech headset between Mumble and Steam (Valheim) applications when both are run as the "steamuser". Sharing the same device between DIFFERENT users does NOT work though and maybe not possible I don't know (eg: using Mumble on headset then trying to play Youtube video as "firefox" user). ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 11:20:27 -0500 hal wrote: > On 7/3/21 09:59, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > 'dmix' is part of Alsa. > > > >> RT? FM? > > Read The Fine Manual ~ go to the Alsa website and read up on the > > 'dmix' plugin, then google for example Alsa configurations for > > sharing devices. > > Thanks, I finally got this working yesterday. Care to share your set up? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
On Monday, August 23rd, 2021 at 5:20 PM, hal wrote: > On 7/3/21 09:59, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > 'dmix' is part of Alsa. > > > RT? FM? > > > Read The Fine Manual ~ go to the Alsa website and read up on the 'dmix' > > > plugin, then google for example Alsa configurations for sharing devices. > Thanks, I finally got this working yesterday. The ALSA configuration language has got to be the worst that I have ever come across. Treat yourself, you have earned it. publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
On 7/3/21 09:59, g4sra via Dng wrote: 'dmix' is part of Alsa. RT? FM? Read The Fine Manual ~ go to the Alsa website and read up on the 'dmix' plugin, then google for example Alsa configurations for sharing devices. Thanks, I finally got this working yesterday. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 12:21:31 + > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > <--snip--> > > Configure Alsa to use the 'dmix' plugin, RT(not so)FM. > Er dbmix in chimaera. Thanks. 'dmix' is part of Alsa. > RT? FM? Read The Fine Manual ~ go to the Alsa website and read up on the 'dmix' plugin, then google for example Alsa configurations for sharing devices. publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 12:21:31 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip--> > Configure Alsa to use the 'dmix' plugin, RT(not so)FM. Er dbmix in chimaera. Thanks. RT? FM? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
<--snip--> Configure Alsa to use the 'dmix' plugin, RT(not so)FM. publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 10:58:37 -0500 hal wrote: > Hi, > I have Alsa installed on Beowulf along with Steam and I guess there > is some Pulse stuff installed too. I also use Mumble to chat during > game play. When I'm playing Valheim, I can get sound in the game, but > Mumble doesn't work. > > Is this just a mis-configuration on my end, or does Also not "share" > the audio between applications? Well it is the same with my Devuan-chimaera system running only alsa. So it has to be something in alsa. I see it in browsers/games/vlc/? First in best dressed. Is Valheim native linx or run through lutris or steam which both run perisisten daemons. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Steam, Mumble, Valheim, Alsa and shared audio
pulseaudio by default doesnt run 'systemwide' and typically only allows 'the user that started it' access to the audio devices (aka, your steam user) maybe google about systemwide-pulseaudio , or checkout pipewire perhaps ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng