Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-11 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/10/2018 05:49 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: On 09/03/2018 at 00:05, taii...@gmx.com ha wrote: On 03/08/2018 11:34 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:    In fact it's just another take of Taiidan against Purism, it's his job. You fail to mention that there are many people who are constantly

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-11 Thread Jaromil
dear Alessandro, On Thu, 08 Mar 2018, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 08/03/2018 at 13:28, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 08/03/18 10:05, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> In exchange for money they are now advertising and endorsing a maker of > >> fake libre hardware by letting them have a

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-10 Thread Daniel Abrecht
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2018-03-08 16:34, Alessandro Selli wrote: > https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ > > 155.26% funded > 4,339 backers > > $2,328,966 raised of the $1,500,000 goal. I'm one of the backers. I pre-ordered the phone and the dev-kit. I think what they are

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-10 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 09/03/2018 at 00:05, taii...@gmx.com ha wrote: > On 03/08/2018 11:34 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >>    In fact it's just another take of Taiidan against Purism, it's his job. > You fail to mention that there are many people who are constantly promoting > purism, whereas I am the only one who

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-10 Thread Chillfan
I see, thanks for clarifying that further. As far as I've got with the quest for free hardware is ARM Cotex A7 (not affected by spectre) on the allwinner boards with the Mali GPU, which seems like an OK solution if 3d acceleration won't be used or the mali free driver project works out. I'll

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-10 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
taii...@gmx.com writes: I still have not received an answer from the FSF about if purism will be allowed to fraudulently market their products at libreplanet, they avoid the question as if I never asked it whilst answering my other questions. I've answered enough support mail to be able to

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-10 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I still have not received an answer from the FSF about if purism will be allowed to fraudulently market their products at libreplanet, they avoid the question as if I never asked it whilst answering my other questions. What a shame - blobbed firmware is not "open source firmware" and the

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-09 Thread Chillfan
Since Purism have created a fully libre distribution, it seems like that would be the reason for having a seat there. Not that I'm saying you're wrong here - it's important that hardware with binary only blobs are not endorsed by anyone as free hardware. It's true that they disable ME in their

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/08/2018 08:26 AM, ghostlands wrote: The important thing about Purism is that it's the only effort leaning in this direction to make it this far financially and as an entity. No it isn't - bunnylabs and raptor engineering are making brand new shipping libre products. The T2 is somewhat

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/08/2018 11:34 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: In fact it's just another take of Taiidan against Purism, it's his job. You fail to mention that there are many people who are constantly promoting purism, whereas I am the only one who provides constructive criticism. I have told them that

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 08/03/2018 at 13:28, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > > On 08/03/18 10:05, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> In exchange for money they are now advertising and endorsing a maker of >> fake libre hardware by letting them have a booth at libreplanet an >> endorsing their debian copy "PureOS" >> >>

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread ghostlands
The important thing about Purism is that it's the only effort leaning in this direction to make it this far financially and as an entity. The (ironically) purists started out pure and strict and refused to deviate for (decades?) and now in their pristine future what they have to show for it is

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 08/03/18 10:05, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > In exchange for money they are now advertising and endorsing a maker of > fake libre hardware by letting them have a booth at libreplanet an > endorsing their debian copy "PureOS" > > https://libreplanet.org/2018/sponsors Really? I am pretty

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
taii...@gmx.com writes: Purism is NOT free hardware and certainly not "grassroots" as their mysterious founder somehow has a bottomless pit of money to burn on hardware costs and propaganda campaigns. Bit of a dissappointment as mysteries go. Crunchbase and the team page suggest that Purism