Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-06-01 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/31/2018 06:22 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-05-31 17:40, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/31/2018 01:30 PM, Fungal-net wrote: Q4OS has dome alot of work on trinity, maybe you should use their repositories to pick things up. It is a systemd distribution, I have a friend using it, I can

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-05-31 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/31/2018 01:30 PM, Fungal-net wrote: Q4OS has dome alot of work on trinity, maybe you should use their repositories to pick things up. It is a systemd distribution, I have a friend using it, I can get the sources.list from her if you need it. First, please do not send me your email,

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-05-31 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:35:00AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] > > > > What do you need that is not already present in the KDE shipped with > > Devuan ASCII? There is no systemd running in there, and KDE is > > reported to work just fine. > > > No kde5-framework. KatolaZ I really do

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-05-31 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/31/2018 01:21 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 05:35:21PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] Hi Nate! alienbob is a workaholic, every group needs one. I've parted with Patrick, he's a fun guy to hang with and I love Slack and I have installed Slack a few times and Patrick

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-05-31 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 05:35:21PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] > > > Hi Nate! alienbob is a workaholic, every group needs one. I've parted with > Patrick, he's a fun guy to hang with and I love Slack and I have installed > Slack a few times and Patrick has installed it for me too while

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-05-30 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 05/26/2018 04:57 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2018 26 May 00:24 -0500, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I'm looking at it this way, Devuan is an alternative to systemd and Trinity is an alternative to plasma and I strongly feel systemd and plasma are married to each other I am running Slackware

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-05-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 26 May 00:24 -0500, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I'm looking at it this way, Devuan is an alternative to systemd and Trinity > is an alternative to plasma and I strongly feel systemd and plasma are > married to each other I am running Slackware Current (similar to Debian Unstable) on a laptop

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-05-25 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/09/2018 11:49 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: jaromil . . . I'm pretty sure that Timothy Pearson is the one doing TDE.  Some threads here: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0:201712::d:t There was discussion last year about adding TDE but it never went anywhere. I'm looking at

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/14/2018 08:38 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 04/14/2018 08:34 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:22:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8    ^^ I really don't know what you mean. *You* mentioned

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:38:35AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] > > > >I really don't know what you mean. *You* mentioned Devuan Beowulf, and > >I told you that Beowulf is currently unusable. There is little point > >into reporting problems about Beowulf at this stage: we need to build >

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/14/2018 08:34 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:22:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] Hello, nice to meet you! I'm the Linux Tester. TDE-Trinity on ASCII is a clean install. [cut] Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:22:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] > > > Hello, nice to meet you! I'm the Linux Tester. > > TDE-Trinity on ASCII is a clean install. > [cut] > > Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 ^^ I really don't know what

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/14/2018 08:14 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 07:49:35AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? A required package in Beowulf is

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 14 April 2018 at 16:49:35, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: > > What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than > > KDE/Plasma? > > Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tldr Antony. -- This email was

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 07:49:35AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: > >What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? > > > Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? > A required package in Beowulf is synaptic and it's not installable.

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/10/2018 04:22 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2018 10 Apr 16:38 -0500, chillfan wrote: What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? I've not looked lately, but it started life after the KDE devs stopped supporting KDE 3.5.x and focused on KDE4. What it has

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/10/2018 04:22 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2018 10 Apr 16:38 -0500, chillfan wrote: What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? I've not looked lately, but it started life after the KDE devs stopped supporting KDE 3.5.x and focused on KDE4. What it has

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? A required package in Beowulf is synaptic and it's not installable. Using aptitude I'm able to install without synaptic, but Trinity has

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:22:30 -0500, Nate wrote in message <20180410232230.ryizb5udaqllp...@n0nb.us>: > * On 2018 10 Apr 16:38 -0500, chillfan wrote: > > What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than > > KDE/Plasma? > > I've not looked lately, but it started life after the

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 10 Apr 16:38 -0500, chillfan wrote: > What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than > KDE/Plasma? I've not looked lately, but it started life after the KDE devs stopped supporting KDE 3.5.x and focused on KDE4. What it has acquired in the meantime, I don't know.

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread chillfan
What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? ​Thanks, chillfan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On April 10, 2018 6:24 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Hey Guys, first my thanks to Timothy who had the foresight to start this > > project and

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/09/2018 11:45 PM, spiralofhope wrote: I had never heard of Trinity until now, and I've done a bit of searching through distributions without systemd: Thanks for the reply, Trinity is not a distro without systemd and probably why you did not find it, but there are a distro or two with

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/09/2018 11:49 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: jaromil . . . I'm pretty sure that Timothy Pearson is the one doing TDE.  Some threads here: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0:201712::d:t There was discussion last year about adding TDE but it never went anywhere. Currently

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/09/2018 11:38 PM, Jaromil wrote: hey Jimmy, On Mon, 09 Apr 2018, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hey Guys, first my thanks to Timothy who had the foresight to start this project and stay with it. Timothy Pearson you rock! ehrm, who is Timothy? I am not sure what project are you talking about.

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 04/09/2018 11:18 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 22:24:23 -0700, Jimmy wrote in message <33140363-b094-a601-c3ce-2f834a6ef...@gmail.com>: Hey Guys, first my thanks to Timothy who had the foresight to start this project and stay with it. Timothy Pearson you rock! I test Debian

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > jaromil . . . I'm pretty sure that Timothy Pearson is the one doing > TDE. oh, ok, thanks. didn't knew. cheers to Timothy! ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread chillfan
If you like that sort of thing.. http://exegnulinux.net/ Is a Devuan based distro using Trinity DE out of the box. So I think that would be your go to easy option for that. Looks updated as of December just gone. Other than that you can use KDE or MATE on Devuan ascii beta, if you're looking

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread golinux
On 2018-04-10 01:45, spiralofhope wrote: Unless there's a packager behind the scenes working on it (fingers crossed for you), Devuan itself doesn't have it packaged, so it's unsurprising that (at a glance) no distribution based on Devuan features Trinity. Not quite true. There is a Devuan

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread golinux
jaromil . . . I'm pretty sure that Timothy Pearson is the one doing TDE. Some threads here: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0:201712::d:t There was discussion last year about adding TDE but it never went anywhere. On 2018-04-10 01:38, Jaromil wrote: hey Jimmy, On Mon, 09 Apr

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread spiralofhope
I had never heard of Trinity until now, and I've done a bit of searching through distributions without systemd: https://blog.spiralofhope.com/tag/linux-distributions-which-do-not-use-systemd It might still be available for one of them, but I suspect that when I looked, it wasn't the main

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Jaromil
hey Jimmy, On Mon, 09 Apr 2018, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Hey Guys, first my thanks to Timothy who had the foresight to start > this project and stay with it. Timothy Pearson you rock! ehrm, who is Timothy? I am not sure what project are you talking about. this is Devuan. we can surely use a

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 22:24:23 -0700, Jimmy wrote in message <33140363-b094-a601-c3ce-2f834a6ef...@gmail.com>: > Hey Guys, first my thanks to Timothy who had the foresight to start > this project and stay with it. Timothy Pearson you rock! > > I test Debian and Ubuntu KDE for more than 20yrs, but