Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon

2016-10-24 Thread dev1fanboy
I have transmission un-systemd'd for Jessie in my project files, it just needs 
adding to the build system and building.

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/transmission

Cheers,

chillfan

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 2:12 PM, Florian Zieboll  wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> I recently noticed, that Jessie's transmission-daemon package depends
> on libsystemd0.
> 
> It can easily be rebuilt with the "--with-systemd-daemon=no" (e.g. in
> debian/rules) or just without having libsystemd-dev installed, as the
> "configure" script will auto-detect its absence and act accordingly.
> 
> Don't know where else to put this... Is there a special place or
> standard procedure for reporting this kind of issues - or does Devuan
> even have a mechanism that auto-detects new systemd dependencies in
> Debian?
> 
> libre Grüße,
> 
> Florian
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon

2016-10-16 Thread Jaromil

hi Florian,

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> I recently noticed, that Jessie's transmission-daemon package depends
> on libsystemd0. 
> 
> It can easily be rebuilt with the "--with-systemd-daemon=no" (e.g. in
> debian/rules) or just without having libsystemd-dev installed, as the
> "configure" script will auto-detect its absence and act accordingly.
> 
> Don't know where else to put this... Is there a special place or
> standard procedure for reporting this kind of issues - or does Devuan
> even have a mechanism that auto-detects new systemd dependencies in
> Debian?

yes, for such notifications one should first open an issue on

https://git.devuan.org/groups/devuan-packages/issues

ciao



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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon

2016-10-13 Thread Antonio Trkdz.tab
Hi Florian,

I just ditched transmission-daemon (and Transmission) in favour of Deluge.
Much better (IMHO) and no systemd dependencies.

Hope it helps.

Antoniotrkdz

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Florian Zieboll  wrote:

>
>
> Hallo,
>
> I recently noticed, that Jessie's transmission-daemon package depends
> on libsystemd0.
>
> It can easily be rebuilt with the "--with-systemd-daemon=no" (e.g. in
> debian/rules) or just without having libsystemd-dev installed, as the
> "configure" script will auto-detect its absence and act accordingly.
>
> Don't know where else to put this... Is there a special place or
> standard procedure for reporting this kind of issues - or does Devuan
> even have a mechanism that auto-detects new systemd dependencies in
> Debian?
>
> libre Grüße,
>
> Florian
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
I reckon so too, will sort it out then. Thanks for helping me figure out the 
problem.

Cheers,

chillfan

On Sunday, February 7, 2016 7:57 PM, shraptor  wrote:
> On 2016-02-07 20:38, dev1fanboy wrote:
>> Ah I didn't think to check that, it does work here when changing the
>> port. Maybe this behaviour is okay, e.g someone would normally use
>> only one at a time, or otherwise change the port. Anyone have any
>> thoughts on that?
>>
>> If it doesn't seem like the right behaviour I could try to change the
>> default ports somehow.
> 
> I think its fine as it is. Its enough to remove dependency on libsystemd
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread shraptor

On 2016-02-07 20:38, dev1fanboy wrote:

Ah I didn't think to check that, it does work here when changing the
port. Maybe this behaviour is okay, e.g someone would normally use
only one at a time, or otherwise change the port. Anyone have any
thoughts on that?

If it doesn't seem like the right behaviour I could try to change the
default ports somehow.


I think its fine as it is. Its enough to remove dependency on libsystemd
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
Ah I didn't think to check that, it does work here when changing the port. 
Maybe this behaviour is okay, e.g someone would normally use only one at a 
time, or otherwise change the port. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

If it doesn't seem like the right behaviour I could try to change the default 
ports somehow.

Thanks,

chillfan

On Sunday, February 7, 2016 6:25 PM, shraptor  wrote:
>> Turns out both can work on debian jessie, so can't fix this unless
>> there is a patch somewhere.
> 
> Do you mean both transmission-gtk and transmission-daemon ?
> 
> I tested some more and if you define another port than default
> then you can run transmission-gtk and transmission-daemon
> at the same time.
> 
> If it's that, this could be said to be fixed by changing
> default port to something else, perhaps this can be done
> in config-files?
> 
> 
> Or did I get you wrong? What do you want to patch?
> 
> 
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread shraptor

Turns out both can work on debian jessie, so can't fix this unless
there is a patch somewhere.


Do you mean both transmission-gtk and transmission-daemon ?

I tested some more and if you define another port than default
then you can run transmission-gtk and transmission-daemon
at the same time.

If it's that, this could be said to be fixed by changing
default port to something else, perhaps this can be done
in config-files?


Or did I get you wrong? What do you want to patch?


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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi,

I suggest you do some software analysis for:
a) libraries
b) functions exported by these libraries
c) functions imported by the executable you are interested in running.

This way you should be a able to determine which function/s are linked
to from dbus and/or systemd.

There are CLI tools for that. I have done it in the past. I have
written a howto on forums.debian.net

If I remember, the commands are:
a) nm -D /path/to/executable
b) ldd /path/to/executable

Edward


On 07/02/2016, dev1fanboy  wrote:
> Turns out both can work on debian jessie, so can't fix this unless there is
> a patch somewhere.
>
> Cheers,
>
> chillfan
>
> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 3:41 PM, dev1fanboy 
> wrote:
>> Thanks for confirming, after your last reply I tried from source and after
>> tinking with the flags to match the ones by debian, I found the same thing
>> you just mentioned. It's when transmission-daemon is started that
>> transmission-gtk (or qt) won't work and the reason seems to be
>> transmission-daemon (the part that uses systemd) being started at the same
>> time. Transmission remote features are working using a remote client.
>>
>> Mostly I've been trying to help with this:
>> https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-maintainers/issues/17
>>
>> Will test it on debian with systemd, if it's the same I'll upload and fix
>> transmission (transmission-daemon).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> chillfan
>>
>> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 3:20 PM, shraptor  wrote:
>>> On 2016-02-07 03:26, shraptor wrote:
 On 2016-02-06 17:18, dev1fanboy wrote:
> So I am trying to build transmission-daemon without systemd, was just
> testing this locally and run into an issue. It can be built without
> systemd but transmission-gtk will no longer start downloading
> torrents.
>
> I think it is down to this error which appears when running
> transmission-gtk in a terminal:
>
> ** (transmission-gtk:32682): WARNING **: Error retrieving
> accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
> The name
> org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
>>>
>>> I downloaded source and built transmission without systemd.
>>>
>>> Started transmission-daemon and successfully downloaded a torrent
>>> using transmission-remote.
>>>
>>> If I then start transmission-gtk I get the same behavior as you.
>>> The torrent doesn't start. I get no dbus error in terminal though.
>>>
>>> If I kill transmission-daemon and restart transmission-gtk the torrent
>>> starts.
>>>
>>> I am not sure what setup you're after but transmission-gtk works without
>>> transmission-daemon!?
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
Turns out both can work on debian jessie, so can't fix this unless there is a 
patch somewhere. 

Cheers,

chillfan

On Sunday, February 7, 2016 3:41 PM, dev1fanboy  
wrote:
> Thanks for confirming, after your last reply I tried from source and after
> tinking with the flags to match the ones by debian, I found the same thing
> you just mentioned. It's when transmission-daemon is started that
> transmission-gtk (or qt) won't work and the reason seems to be
> transmission-daemon (the part that uses systemd) being started at the same
> time. Transmission remote features are working using a remote client.
> 
> Mostly I've been trying to help with this:
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-maintainers/issues/17
> 
> Will test it on debian with systemd, if it's the same I'll upload and fix
> transmission (transmission-daemon).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> chillfan
> 
> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 3:20 PM, shraptor  wrote:
>> On 2016-02-07 03:26, shraptor wrote:
>>> On 2016-02-06 17:18, dev1fanboy wrote:
 So I am trying to build transmission-daemon without systemd, was just
 testing this locally and run into an issue. It can be built without
 systemd but transmission-gtk will no longer start downloading
 torrents.

 I think it is down to this error which appears when running
 transmission-gtk in a terminal:

 ** (transmission-gtk:32682): WARNING **: Error retrieving
 accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
 The name
 org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
>>
>> I downloaded source and built transmission without systemd.
>>
>> Started transmission-daemon and successfully downloaded a torrent
>> using transmission-remote.
>>
>> If I then start transmission-gtk I get the same behavior as you.
>> The torrent doesn't start. I get no dbus error in terminal though.
>>
>> If I kill transmission-daemon and restart transmission-gtk the torrent
>> starts.
>>
>> I am not sure what setup you're after but transmission-gtk works without
>> transmission-daemon!?
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
Thanks for confirming, after your last reply I tried from source and after 
tinking with the flags to match the ones by debian, I found the same thing you 
just mentioned. It's when transmission-daemon is started that transmission-gtk 
(or qt) won't work and the reason seems to be transmission-daemon (the part 
that uses systemd) being started at the same time. Transmission remote features 
are working using a remote client. 

Mostly I've been trying to help with this: 
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-maintainers/issues/17

Will test it on debian with systemd, if it's the same I'll upload and fix 
transmission (transmission-daemon). 

Cheers,

chillfan

On Sunday, February 7, 2016 3:20 PM, shraptor  wrote:
> On 2016-02-07 03:26, shraptor wrote:
>> On 2016-02-06 17:18, dev1fanboy wrote:
>>> So I am trying to build transmission-daemon without systemd, was just
>>> testing this locally and run into an issue. It can be built without
>>> systemd but transmission-gtk will no longer start downloading
>>> torrents.
>>>
>>> I think it is down to this error which appears when running
>>> transmission-gtk in a terminal:
>>>
>>> ** (transmission-gtk:32682): WARNING **: Error retrieving
>>> accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
>>> The name
>>> org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
> 
> I downloaded source and built transmission without systemd.
> 
> Started transmission-daemon and successfully downloaded a torrent
> using transmission-remote.
> 
> If I then start transmission-gtk I get the same behavior as you.
> The torrent doesn't start. I get no dbus error in terminal though.
> 
> If I kill transmission-daemon and restart transmission-gtk the torrent
> starts.
> 
> I am not sure what setup you're after but transmission-gtk works without
> transmission-daemon!?
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread shraptor

On 2016-02-07 03:26, shraptor wrote:

On 2016-02-06 17:18, dev1fanboy wrote:

So I am trying to build transmission-daemon without systemd, was just
testing this locally and run into an issue. It can be built without
systemd but transmission-gtk will no longer start downloading
torrents.

I think it is down to this error which appears when running
transmission-gtk in a terminal:

** (transmission-gtk:32682): WARNING **: Error retrieving
accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
The name
org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files


I downloaded source and built transmission without systemd.

Started transmission-daemon and successfully downloaded a torrent
using transmission-remote.

If I then start transmission-gtk I get the same behavior as you.
The torrent doesn't start. I get no dbus error in terminal though.

If I kill transmission-daemon and restart transmission-gtk the torrent 
starts.


I am not sure what setup you're after but transmission-gtk works without
transmission-daemon!?
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Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-06 Thread shraptor

On 2016-02-06 17:18, dev1fanboy wrote:

So I am trying to build transmission-daemon without systemd, was just
testing this locally and run into an issue. It can be built without
systemd but transmission-gtk will no longer start downloading
torrents.

I think it is down to this error which appears when running
transmission-gtk in a terminal:

** (transmission-gtk:32682): WARNING **: Error retrieving
accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
The name
org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files


I am on Arch derivative and I can tell for certain that transmission-gtk
works without systemd or libsystemd

I am using the original package for transmission-gtk on Arch Linux
However I have dbus compiled without systemd that is not default on 
Arch.


I think you should rather look on dbus than transmission.

Hope this helps even if we're not exactly on the same dist

Best regards

Scoob



Can anyone suggest a way to solve this, or provide a patch? If so I'll
try to get it working for jessie and put it on the gitlab.

Cheers,

chillfan

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