Re: [dns-operations] Looking for zones using white lies (RFC 4470)

2023-01-27 Thread Paul Ebersman
shuque> The UltraDNS implementation doesn't use the more precise white shuque> lies epsilon function defined in the spec, but it is probably shuque> good enough for all practical purposes. shuque> And it's much closer to white lies than "black" lies, because it shuque> preserves the correct

Re: [dns-operations] Looking for zones using white lies (RFC 4470)

2023-01-27 Thread Shumon Huque
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:16 AM Paul Ebersman < list-dns-operati...@dragon.net> wrote: > shuque> UltraDNS (Neustar Security Services) is known to use NSEC White > shuque> Lies. I have a test zone there, > > shuque> which you can examine: "[[ultratest.huque.com]]". > > My recollection is that the

Re: [dns-operations] Looking for zones using white lies (RFC 4470)

2023-01-27 Thread Paul Ebersman
shuque> UltraDNS (Neustar Security Services) is known to use NSEC White shuque> Lies. I have a test zone there, shuque> which you can examine: "[[ultratest.huque.com]]". My recollection is that the NSS implementation is really grey lies, i.e. not quite RFC white lies but not fully black like

Re: [dns-operations] Looking for zones using white lies (RFC 4470)

2023-01-27 Thread Shumon Huque
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 3:39 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 12:19:18AM -0500, > Viktor Dukhovni wrote > a message of 30 lines which said: > > > Three sample zones: > > They all seem to use black lies, not white lies. > I took a quick look: * herokudns.com is

Re: [dns-operations] Looking for zones using white lies (RFC 4470)

2023-01-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 12:19:18AM -0500, Viktor Dukhovni wrote a message of 30 lines which said: > Three sample zones: They all seem to use black lies, not white lies. ___ dns-operations mailing list dns-operations@lists.dns-oarc.net

Re: [dns-operations] Looking for zones using white lies (RFC 4470)

2023-01-26 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 08:33:21PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > I'm looking for zones in the wild that are signed using the technique > of white lies (RFC 4470). > > [Not the black lies used by Cloudflare.] Three sample zones: herokudns.com. IN SOA dns1.p05.nsone.net.

[dns-operations] Looking for zones using white lies (RFC 4470)

2023-01-26 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
I'm looking for zones in the wild that are signed using the technique of white lies (RFC 4470). [Not the black lies used by Cloudflare.] Do you know some? ___ dns-operations mailing list dns-operations@lists.dns-oarc.net