Re: [dns-operations] weird DNS problem

2013-06-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:15:32PM -0500,
 alex flores a...@mordormx.net wrote 
 a message of 58 lines which said:

 One more weird thing is that just as the problem appeared, just
 dissapeared from the dns affected and it start to work correctly,
 but now we received the report from another dns  So it looks
 like the condition that block the dns communication dissapear and
 then apply to another dns.

So it smells like a network problem. They are typically transient.

 alejandro.flo...@mexis.net: Host or domain name not found. Name service 
 error
 for name=mexis.net type=MX: Host not found, try again

You have only two authoritative name servers, in the same /16 and the
same AS. From traceroute, they also seem to be in the same physical
location. That is not enough to providence resilience and reliability.

A network issue with this prefix/AS/location is sufficient to explain
the symptoms you describe. DNS depends on IP, remember.



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Re: [dns-operations] weird DNS problem

2013-06-27 Thread Randy Bush
 You have only two authoritative name servers, in the same /16 and the
 same AS. From traceroute, they also seem to be in the same physical
 location. That is not enough to providence resilience and reliability.
 
 A network issue with this prefix/AS/location is sufficient to explain
 the symptoms you describe. DNS depends on IP, remember.

i privately pointed him to 2182.  of course that only deals with his L3
problem.

randy
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[dns-operations] weird DNS problem

2013-06-26 Thread alex flores
Hi there
 This is Alejandro Flores from Mexis, an ISP in Mexico city
 We are having some weirs issues we would like to share with the list,
looking for some help or comment

 We have 2 authoritative DNS 207.249.67.253 and 207.249.77.253.
(ns1.infoacces.net and ns2.infoacces.net)

 In the last 2 weeks we have been receiving some users reports about
problems to have email delivered from our mail server to external
email servers (and from external servers to our server).

 As usual we verify the logs and we started to see problems related
with reverse, however our reverse are correct, so we checked the
DNS used by the remote provider, the result is that their dns is
unable to reach our DNS

 We check any firewall policy that could be blocking the request but
thats not the case.
 We checked our DNS, but these hasnt been changed in a long time

 Again, using an external affected DNS we enable the debug, and we
noticed that the DNS was unable to get the TLD Servers  from the
root servers, Thats a theory about the possible reason to the situation.

One more weird thing is that just as the problem appeared, just
dissapeared from the dns affected
and it start to work correctly, but now we received the report from
another dns
So it looks like the condition that block the dns communication
dissapear and then apply to another dns.


In this moment for example aol.com is affected, if i try to send me an
email from aol the bounce error is

- The delivery status notification errors -


alejandro.flo...@mexis.net: Host or domain name not found. Name service error
for name=mexis.net type=MX: Host not found, try again

But if i use gmail or any other email service it works.

Any tip or idea to solve this situation?
The dns logs just dont show anything, cause the dns request never
reach the dns, in fact is the user in a server affected query our dns
he receive the correct response, so maybe the problem could be that
the dns query is unable to get the authoritative dns... may be.

Thanks for any comment
Alejandro Flores L.
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Re: [dns-operations] weird DNS problem

2013-06-26 Thread Mark Andrews

Whois shows recent changes.  As you are with NetSol you may have
been caught up in last week's debacle.  Unfortunately there isn't
a free way to lookup back at recent changes to whois data.

Database last updated on 27-Jun-2013 00:27:16 EDT.

Mark

In message 
CAEPLxq_y-s9UN8VXZZT_mjbDCuSueO-HZD==NSYKwVuUJR-=t...@mail.gmail.com
, alex flores writes:
 Hi there
  This is Alejandro Flores from Mexis, an ISP in Mexico city
  We are having some weirs issues we would like to share with the list,
 looking for some help or comment
 
  We have 2 authoritative DNS 207.249.67.253 and 207.249.77.253.
 (ns1.infoacces.net and ns2.infoacces.net)
 
  In the last 2 weeks we have been receiving some users reports about
 problems to have email delivered from our mail server to external
 email servers (and from external servers to our server).
 
  As usual we verify the logs and we started to see problems related
 with reverse, however our reverse are correct, so we checked the
 DNS used by the remote provider, the result is that their dns is
 unable to reach our DNS
 
  We check any firewall policy that could be blocking the request but
 thats not the case.
  We checked our DNS, but these hasnt been changed in a long time
 
  Again, using an external affected DNS we enable the debug, and we
 noticed that the DNS was unable to get the TLD Servers  from the
 root servers, Thats a theory about the possible reason to the situation.
 
 One more weird thing is that just as the problem appeared, just
 dissapeared from the dns affected
 and it start to work correctly, but now we received the report from
 another dns
 So it looks like the condition that block the dns communication
 dissapear and then apply to another dns.
 
 
 In this moment for example aol.com is affected, if i try to send me an
 email from aol the bounce error is

 
 - The delivery status notification errors -
 
 
 alejandro.flo...@mexis.net: Host or domain name not found. Name service err
 or
 for name=mexis.net type=MX: Host not found, try again
 
 But if i use gmail or any other email service it works.
 
 Any tip or idea to solve this situation?
 The dns logs just dont show anything, cause the dns request never
 reach the dns, in fact is the user in a server affected query our dns
 he receive the correct response, so maybe the problem could be that
 the dns query is unable to get the authoritative dns... may be.
 
 Thanks for any comment
 Alejandro Flores L.
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