Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-09-02 Thread Jaime Jiménez
Dear CoRE WG, Thanks to the authors and the reviewers that provided comments on the list for this draft. Given the in-room support and the list discussion during the WGA the chairs believe that there is sufficient support for the adoption of this document in CoRE. The authors are advised to

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-30 Thread Jaime Jiménez
Dear all, this is just a gentle reminder that the WGA call is scheduled to be closed by this Thursday 1st of September. It would be great if the participants of the discussion could summarize their position towards the call. In particular for those ambivalent or opposing WGA. Thanks!

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-24 Thread Matthias Waehlisch
Hi Ted, sorry for the late reply! re scenarios: during bootstrappign, a constrained requires CoAP and DNS client capablities. for example, when an LwM2M client registers at a LwM2M server, which acts as a partial CoAP Resource Directory. re: your statement "The privacy benefit of DoH

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-18 Thread Ted Lemon
Before you go down the mDNS-over-constrained-networks rabbit hole, you might want to look at existing practice. E.g. Thread uses SRP (draft-ietf-dnssd-srp, in last call) for service registration, and then uses regular DNS and DNS Push for lookups. mDNS is used on the infrastructure link (e.g.

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-18 Thread Martine Sophie Lenders
Hi! Martine Lenders, here, one of the co-authors of the draft. Indeed, as Carsten already stated: Using OSCORE is one of our main use cases, using a compressed format for DNS messages is another. We implemented both DNS over DTLS and DNS over CoAP (DoC), including the variants DNS over

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-15 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 15. Aug 2022, at 19:41, Ted Lemon wrote: > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:34 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> >> On 15. Aug 2022, at 17:11, Ted Lemon wrote: >>> >>> This is a good question. I think we’d want to understand what the actual >>> use case is for DNS-over-CoAP before proceeding with

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-15 Thread Ted Lemon
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:34 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 15. Aug 2022, at 17:11, Ted Lemon wrote: >> >> This is a good question. I think we’d want to understand what the actual use >> case is for DNS-over-CoAP before proceeding with this, > > The main use case is systems that already

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-15 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 15. Aug 2022, at 17:11, Ted Lemon wrote: > > This is a good question. I think we’d want to understand what the actual use > case is for DNS-over-CoAP before proceeding with this, The main use case is systems that already implement CoAP and do not want to add machinery for some protocols

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-15 Thread Ted Lemon
This is a good question. I think we’d want to understand what the actual use case is for DNS-over-CoAP before proceeding with this, since DNS-over-DTLS would obviously be less costly to implement. The stated use case of this document is to encrypt DNS packets, which is already addressed by

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-15 Thread Tim Wicinski
DPRIVE is also a fine location. Has anyone implemented DNS over DTLS for your use case? tim On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 6:04 AM Jaime Jiménez wrote: > CCing the right DNSOP mailing list now. > > On 15.8.2022 11.26, Jaime Jiménez wrote: > > Dear CoRE WG, > > We would like to start the call for

Re: [dns-privacy] [core] WGA call for draft-lenders-dns-over-coap

2022-08-15 Thread Jaime Jiménez
CCing the right DNSOP mailing list now. On 15.8.2022 11.26, Jaime Jiménez wrote: Dear CoRE WG, We would like to start the call for adoption on draft-lenders-dns-over-coap. The draft defines a protocol for sending DNS messages over secure CoAP (DTLS and/or OSCORE). The draft was discussed