Re: [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

2020-01-07 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 19 Dec 2019, at 02:09, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:06 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: > > > > On 2 Dec 2019, at 00:00, Martin Thomson > > wrote: > > Suggest replacing the last 4 paragraphs of this section

Re: [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

2020-01-07 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 19 Dec 2019, at 04:05, Rob Sayre wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 6:10 PM Eric Rescorla > wrote: > > “It has been pointed out that should the trend towards using large public > resolvers increase, an increased centralisation of DNS resolution services >

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] last call review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 23 Dec 2019, at 22:12, Rob Sayre wrote: > > Hi, here are comments I mistakenly sent to a thread about another dprive last > call. I took the liberty of removing Stephen, Ben and secdir from the cc list and modifying the subject as I believe this is a general review of the document not

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 31 Dec 2019, at 14:45, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: > > >> On 2 Dec 2019, at 00:00, Martin Thomson > > wrote: >> >> Prompted by my surprise at seeing Brian Trammell's mention

Re: [dns-privacy] [secdir] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 23 Dec 2019, at 22:05, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 02:00:45PM +, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> >> Hiya, >> >> On 18/12/2019 13:45, Sara Dickinson wrote: >>> >>> On 29 Nov 2019, at 15:39, Stephen Farrell via Datatracker wrote: Reviewer:

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 31 Dec 2019, at 22:35, Rob Sayre wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: > > Suggest the following text with the goal of getting consensus that the > opinion exists and is held by many network operators, not that the opinion > itself

Re: [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 2 Jan 2020, at 01:03, Martin Thomson wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, at 02:06, Sara Dickinson wrote: >> To try to separate out the issue with the text in Section 3.5.1.1 I’ll >> respond to the comments on that in a separate thread and try to address >> the other issues in this email.

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] last call review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Rob Sayre
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:35 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > > > Secondly, I found the entire section "3.5.1.5.2. DoH Specific > Considerations" to be objectionable, and recommend removing it. It mentions > many concerns that are better covered in RFC 8484 and/or HTTP RFCs, and > contrasts DoH

Re: [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Martin Thomson
This thread is starting to get hard for me to follow. Apologies if something goes missing. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, at 05:39, Sara Dickinson wrote: > Propose using text suggest by Ekr here: "The privacy risks associated > with other protocols that make use of DNS information are not > considered

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:38 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 31 Dec 2019, at 14:45, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> >> >> On 2 Dec 2019, at 00:00, Martin Thomson wrote: >> >> Prompted by my surprise at seeing Brian Trammell's mention of

Re: [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-07 Thread Rob Sayre
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:15 PM Martin Thomson wrote: > But it is true that HTTP has grown a number (many) of similar features. > You could - as this document strong implies - suggest that multitude of > options makes it a risky proposition to use HTTP because of the surprising > ways in which

Re: [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

2020-01-07 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:37 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 19 Dec 2019, at 02:09, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:06 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> >> >> > On 2 Dec 2019, at 00:00, Martin Thomson wrote: >> > > > > >> Suggest replacing the last 4 paragraphs of this