Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] DNS stamps

2020-01-10 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jan 10, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Dan Wing wrote: > The signature could be retrieved and validated separately from the stamp > itself. For example, after getting the DNS stamp, retrieve a well-known DNS > object (TXT, new RR, whatever) which is signed by the external entity. That > would keep the

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] DNS stamps

2020-01-10 Thread Dan Wing
On Jan 9, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > I see a bigger problem that some of desired assertions are in principle > unverifiable, e.g. "no logging". Of course, we could (optionally) extend the > string by a signature, but I suspect that'd increase the length a lot without >

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] last call review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-10 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:55 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:29:29AM -0800, > Eric Rescorla wrote > a message of 181 lines which said: > > > > It means a standards compliant DoT implementation will have no > > > client identifiers, a standards compliant DoH

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] last call review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:29:29AM -0800, Eric Rescorla wrote a message of 181 lines which said: > > It means a standards compliant DoT implementation will have no > > client identifiers, a standards compliant DoH implementation is > > free to (and likely) to include them. > > > > [Citation

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] [Ext] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-10 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 6:50 AM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jan 9, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > Section 3.5.1.2 > > I admit that I don't understand the purpose of this section. > Concentrating on minutiae, like the details of DHCP or ARP/NDP spoofing, is > far too low

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

2020-01-10 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jan 9, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: Section 3.5.1.2 I admit that I don't understand the purpose of this section. Concentrating on minutiae, like the details of DHCP or ARP/NDP spoofing, is far too low level. If we were to simply assume the usual threat

Re: [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

2020-01-10 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:03 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 7 Jan 2020, at 22:47, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:37 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> >> >> On 19 Dec 2019, at 02:09, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:06 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: