Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
Scott On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 1:42 PM Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > > [SAH] We might be disagreeing on the nature of experimentation, but I most > definitely provided examples of specific, measurable metrics that could be > used to evaluate an experiment: > > >

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Rob Sayre
On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 3:44 PM Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > *[SAH] The IESG deliberately chartered this working group to “Investigate > potential solutions for adding confidentiality to DNS exchanges involving > authoritative servers” in an Experimental manner. As Brian noted, that’s a > binding

Re: [dns-privacy] Secdir early review of draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing-07

2023-06-09 Thread Salz, Rich
He apologizes for his lack of Geography. (or he should) My excuse: I am a typical American, ignorant of the rest of the world :) ___ dns-privacy mailing list dns-privacy@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy

Re: [dns-privacy] Secdir early review of draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing-07

2023-06-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
I pointed out to Mr Salz that Alajuela is the location of the author in question, not their employer. He apologizes for his lack of Geography. (or he should) tim On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Rich Salz via Datatracker wrote: > Reviewer: Rich Salz > Review result: Has Nits > > The term

[dns-privacy] Secdir early review of draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing-07

2023-06-09 Thread Rich Salz via Datatracker
Reviewer: Rich Salz Review result: Has Nits The term "unilateral" makes me do a double-take. That's probably on me, but I always think of it in a military context. So I am glad to see a short clear definition early in the document, in the terminology section. All of the comments below are

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Paul Hoffman
Here is my first cut of wording for a new operational considerations section to deal with systems that are both recursive and authoritative on port 853. Comments are welcome. As recursive resolvers implement this protocol, authoritative servers will see more probing on port 853 of IP addresses

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:52 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email originated from outside the

[dns-privacy] OARC 41 - Call for Contribution -- deadline extension

2023-06-09 Thread Manu Bretelle
Deadline for OARC 41 abstract submission is extended to June 20th, 23:59 UTC. Please note that, we are looking for contributions and remote participation is actively supported * OARC 41 will be a two-day hybrid meeting and the dates are 6th and 7th September to

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Paul Hoffman
I'm hearing a bit of support for the proposal of changing the WG charter, but more support for not changing the charter and issuing the protocol as experimental. There have been no proposals for specific metrics for how to judge the experiment, so it is likely to be "two years, add some

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
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