Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hi Barry, There are complex factors to optimize the datacenter connection of CDN. I know every CDN need "Everything is in IP, RIPs, FIBs, AS Patch, system load, content availability, etc." to measure better path calculations. I understand that "Knowing that it is in Palo Alto California" is not so

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

> On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Lanlan Pan wrote: > > However, if you know about the geolocation , you can > make a better response, most of time, is the best response too. Your statement is not matching the operational realities I live in. I understand how mapping is done in my current envi

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hi Paul, Thanks for your comments and detail expatiation, :-) *Why I think ECS is actually based on the map of " client subnet -> geolocation (country, province, isp) " ? * Of course, we all read RFC 7871, they said "Topologically Close" , not "Geographically close". Everyone know that geolocat

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Lanlan Pan wrote: > ... Because ECS is also based on the map of > "*client subnet -> geolocation*" information. Paul Vixie 于2017年3月22日周 > wait, what? Lanlan Pan wrote: > Hi Paul, hi. > https://www.cdnplanet.com/blog/which-cdns-support-edns-client-subnet/ this web page is factually incorrect in

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hi Paul, https://www.cdnplanet.com/blog/which-cdns-support-edns-client-subnet/ Paul Vixie 于2017年3月22日周三 下午4:00写道： > > > Lanlan Pan wrote: > > ... Because ECS is > > also based on the map of "*client subnet -> geolocation*" information. > > wait, what? > > -- > P Vixie > > -- 致礼 Best Regards 潘

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Lanlan Pan wrote: > ... Because ECS is > also based on the map of "*client subnet -> geolocation*" information. wait, what? -- P Vixie ___ dns-privacy mailing list dns-privacy@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hi Ask, Ask Bjørn Hansen 于2017年3月22日周三 下午12:40写道： > > On Mar 21, 2017, at 21:30 , Lanlan Pan wrote: > > See this example of ECS : Which CDNs support edns-client-subnet? > , > they *map the ECS client subnet into the geolocati

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

> On Mar 21, 2017, at 21:30 , Lanlan Pan wrote: > > See this example of ECS : Which CDNs support edns-client-subnet?  > , they > map the ECS client subnet into the geolocation (what EIL give), and then make > DNS decision.

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hi Ask， Ask Bjørn Hansen 于2017年3月21日周二 下午4:11写道： > > > On Mar 20, 2017, at 0:49, Lanlan Pan wrote: > > > > Everyone has known that physical location and the topology of content > delivery DO NOT MATCH. > > As last mail reply to Warren, my proposal can offer the SAME critical > information for au

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 0:49, Lanlan Pan wrote: > > Everyone has known that physical location and the topology of content > delivery DO NOT MATCH. > As last mail reply to Warren, my proposal can offer the SAME critical > information for authoritative server to make tailored response decision as

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hi, Thanks for Petr and Brian. Brian Hartvigsen 于2017年3月21日周二 上午3:34写道： >> For user privacy concern, we can revise ECS(114.240.0.0/24 >> ) => EIL (CHINA, BEIJING, UNICOM)，give a >> tradeoff between privacy and precise. > > Nice, this sounds like appropriate tradeoff to m

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

>> For user privacy concern, we can revise ECS(114.240.0.0/24 >> ) => EIL (CHINA, BEIJING, UNICOM)，give a >> tradeoff between privacy and precise. > > Nice, this sounds like appropriate tradeoff to me. > > > Side-effect of this is that it removes need to maintain copies

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hello, On 20.3.2017 08:49, Lanlan Pan wrote: > Hi Barry, > > Thanks for your comments. > > Because the draft discussed the DNS privacy problem of ECS, and was first > presented in In NDSS 2017 DNS Privacy Workshop, so I cc the email to dprive > WG. > > > Barry Raveendran Greene mailto:bgre..

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-pan-dnsop-edns-isp-location-00

Hi Barry, Thanks for your comments. Because the draft discussed the DNS privacy problem of ECS, and was first presented in In NDSS 2017 DNS Privacy Workshop, so I cc the email to dprive WG. Barry Raveendran Greene 于2017年3月19日周日 上午2:22写道： Hello Yu Fu, I was not at the workshop. Warren already