Yes, the problem is 3) has a condition we wait until it changes then retry. But for a lot (most?) of errors we lack any indication from the system it has changed.

For example insufficient memory or insufficient file descriptors. It may change, but unlike watching up and down interfaces, there is no hook which would retry listener creation. It fails once and then just maybe retries on explicit reload. That is why I think it is absolutely necessary to log any failure we pass somewhere, unless we know we will retry later.

More below...

On 11/23/23 13:47, Simon Kelley wrote:
That's a good point, but I don't think there needs to be any non-fatal error logging. There are three situations during startup.

1) bind() succeeds.
2) bind fails for a reason which won't change - fatal error.
3) bind fails for a reason which may change - startup and wait until it does change and try again.

The canonical example of 3) is the one I gave before, --listen-address=1.2.3.4 but not local interface has address 1.2.3.4. The intention is that when a new interface comes up with address 1.2.3.4 then a new socket will be created and bound. This is long after startup, so the only option if it fails then is to log the event.
Of course, this is very special case somehow well handled. I agree there is not much else to do. We could only make the error fatal, but I don't think that is desired.

If the only situation where we want to wait is the one above, then the solution to to make EADDRNOTAVAIL at startup the only one where we keep waiting, and all the others are fatal. I think when I originally wrote this I wasn't sure if that was the only non-fatal error which is why the code is as it is.

This is not a complete solution to your original problem of enforcing only one dnsmasq daemon process in any case. For example if you configure a single listen-address which doesn't exist on the machine, then you can start as many dnsmasq processes as you like and they'll all start up and be waiting for the interface with that address to be created. Once it is, all will try and bind it, and all but one will fail, but they'll all still exist. Managing daemon processes is really the job of sysvinit or systemd, but the authors of the bug seem to sant protection from just running the binary from the command line.

We at Fedora support only services managed by systemd. But even for that, it needs to get some feedback of failure. If the process terminates with non-zero status code, unit will be marked failed. We *need* that. Alternative might be support for libsystemd with notify socket, which would work with Type=notify services. Now it will report failed startup only with Type=forking. Later failure is logged only as a warning regardless of type of the error. I think we want unexpected error types to be logged as errors, especially for insufficient resources errors like ENOMEM. Or made them fatal. With systemd unit Restart=on-failure, it might be able to recover from memory leaks if such errors were fatal. Not sure we want that, might break a lot of deployments, but also fix some.


TLDR;

We either pick a set of errors which are Ok to continue (EADDRNOTAVAIL, what others?) and fail fatally at startup for all others, or we pick a set of errors to fail fatally at startup (EADDRINUSE, EACCESS, what others?) and continue for all others.


Cheers,

Simon.

I would say safer would be to fatal error everything except explicitly waived, for now just EADDRNOTAVAIL and EINTR? I think most of these errors means incomplete degraded service anyway, without reliable self-repair code present. If it had repeat timer with exponentially increasing time of retry (with some upper bound), then we might want it to start anyway. But I think it is safer to prevent half-initialized service. Systemd can provide autorecovery with smart settings. Do we have a way to specify I do not require TCP listening socket for DNS? It should be clearly discouraged, but for some kinds of tests it might be acceptable.

Cheers,
Petr



On 23/11/2023 11:13, Petr Menšík wrote:
To fix problem with multiple instances correctly refusing running on the same machine and namespaces, yes, it would be sufficient.

But I think part of the problem is hiding all problems during startup and not showing them at all, in any source. I think that is okay for EADDRNOTAVAIL to not be printed. But I think in other cases we want at least warning somewhere. This way you also get exact error message printed. For example selinux policy hardening may prevent your process to listen on port 53, even though it has NET_BIND_SERVICE.

With my modification it will print errors for listeners used. Note 10.1.2.3 is hidden at that phase. You would not know it without strace analysis. I expect there can be different errors, for example running out of file descriptors or memory. Hiding something non-standard happened during startup is quite a bad design. Only some kinds of errors are okay during startup.

$ sudo -u nobody fedora-like/dnsmasq -d --bind-dynamic --listen-address=10.1.2.3 dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for 127.0.0.1: Permission denied dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for 127.0.0.1: Permission denied
dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for ::1: Permission denied
dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for ::1: Permission denied

dnsmasq: process is missing required capability NET_BIND_SERVICE

# Compare this with:

$ sudo -u nobody fedora-like/dnsmasq -d --bind-interfaces --listen-address=10.1.2.3 dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for 127.0.0.1: Permission denied

I think we want any errors printed, even if they are not made fatal. Except carefully chosen type of errors, which are expected and would raise just false alarms. Not sure how to trigger other types of errors, but I am sure I would like to see them, even if they did not cause the process to die. That is why I have used more complicated approach, which should print everything unexpected, even when dnsmasq is not stopped. In order to investigate you first have to know something unusual has happened.

On 23. 11. 23 0:29, Simon Kelley wrote:
Isn't this sufficient to fix the problem?

Not calling die() when bind-dynamic is set is intended to handle the case that  bind returns EADDRNOTAVAIL because you've configured --listen-address=1.2.3.4 but there's not a local interface with that address. dnsmasq runs anyway in the expectation that such an interface will appear in the future and a socket will be bound then.

I don't think there's a die()/syslog() conflict at all.


diff --git a/src/network.c b/src/network.c
index ca9fada..db1d528 100644
--- a/src/network.c
+++ b/src/network.c
@@ -924,7 +924,7 @@ static int make_sock(union mysockaddr *addr, int type, int dienow)
        {
          /* failure to bind addresses given by --listen-address at this point
             is OK if we're doing bind-dynamic */
-         if (!option_bool(OPT_CLEVERBIND))
+         if (!option_bool(OPT_CLEVERBIND) || errno == EADDRINUSE)
            die(s, daemon->addrbuff, EC_BADNET);
        }
       else

Cheers,

Simon.

On 22/11/2023 19:27, Petr Menšík wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have received error report RHEL-16398 [1], which I think makes sense to fix even in the lastest version. I believe it allows non-intentional another instance running without error. What is worse, it does not even show any warning that initialization is incomplete.

Of course the problem at start is those errors happen in time when no log is available. I think that can be fixed easily by using stderr at that time. That is patch #1.

Second makes EADDRNOTAVAIL bind errors still hidden, but prints all other errors at least to stderr. On a system with systemd that should make it present in journalctl -u dnsmasq anyway. EADDRINUSE is made fatal, because that would not be usually handled by new addresses added later. If there is a need to start another dnsmasq instance without TCP listeners, I think that should be specified more explicitly. Makes EADDRINUSE fatal the same way as with --bind-interfaces.

Would you find any other errors, which should be hidden or made fatal? What would you think of those changes?

1. https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-16398

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