[DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, I have just encountered strange thing: security.eu.debian.org mail is handled by 0 . I am not sure if pointing MX record to other peoples zone is good idea. And the root zone has it's own deal of DoS attack even without random MXes pointing into it. MX 0 . is the standard way of

Re: [DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 09:57:14AM +0200, Ond?ej Surý ondrej.s...@nic.cz wrote a message of 77 lines which said: MX 0 . is the standard way of saying we don't do email. Bullshit. How different MTAs behave? Postfix does not ask the root, it stops after it had the MX: Apr 10 10:08:48

Re: [DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20090410081050.ga13...@nic.fr, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 09:57:14AM +0200, Ond?ej Sur=FD ondrej.s...@nic.cz wrote = a message of 77 lines which said: MX 0 . is the standard way of saying we don't do email. Bullshit. How different MTAs

Re: [DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread SM
At 00:57 10-04-2009, Ondřej Surý wrote: I have just encountered strange thing: http://security.eu.debian.orgsecurity.eu.debian.org mail is handled by 0 . I am not sure if pointing MX record to other peoples zone is good idea. And the root zone has it's own deal of DoS attack even

Re: [DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread Edward Lewis
At 2:08 -0700 4/10/09, SM wrote: It's called NULL MX. There is an expired I-D about it at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/05aug/IDs/draft-delany-nullmx-00.txt The attempt to standardize the practice was viewed as a bad idea by the DNSEXT WG. There are three messages in the namedroppers

Re: [DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
Since it looks like it is already in use (at least in some MTAs) I am willing to help to standardize this. However I lack an experience what to do if there is no smtp working group. Should I send it to apps area ml, or to chairs of apps area? It seems to be overkill to start whole wg just to

Re: [DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread SM
At 07:23 10-04-2009, Ondřej Surý wrote: Since it looks like it is already in use (at least in some MTAs) I am willing to help to standardize this. However I lack an experience what to do if there is no smtp working group. Should I send it to apps area ml, or to chairs of apps area? You can

Re: [DNSOP] MX 0 . standard way of saying we don't do email ?

2009-04-10 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:19:03PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: At 13:04 -0700 4/10/09, SM wrote: This message ( http://www.ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2005/msg00944.html ) and some other messages on the ietf-smtp mailing list could be read as a lack of support for the