Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread Masataka Ohta
Xun wrote: So, what diagnosis, are you considering, becomes possible only by your proposal? The particular diagnostic that our proposal tries to provide is to tell which one of a set of anycast servers responses to a DNS query. It's a reception by a hospital clerk rather than a diagnosis

Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread Paul Vixie
On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 09:49:03 am Masataka Ohta wrote: Xun wrote: Unicast address of an anycast server is very useful for many diagnostics, however, as DNS queries is sent to the anycast address and the path is decided by routing system, knowing the set of unicast address may not

Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread Masataka Ohta
Paul Vixie wrote: That is an issue better handled by IP layer. The purpose I see in this proposal, that cannot be handled by the IP layer, is to tell me which anycast instance is seen by some recursive name server. All our current diagnostics rely on contacting the server itself to see

Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread Edward Lewis
A noble idea, but alas not terribly useful. If this were available, we'd disable it in anything we deploy nor build it into our code base. At 11:26 -0700 9/25/11, xun...@isi.edu wrote: Hi all, Our research group has been looking at assessing anycast usage. (We have a technical report about

Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread Joe Abley
On 2011-09-27, at 10:09, Edward Lewis wrote: A noble idea, but alas not terribly useful. Not very useful for Neustar, maybe, but I would suggest that your requirements in this regard are likely not to be universal. We respond honestly to queries for HOSTNAME.BIND, VERSION.BIND, ID.SERVER,

Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread John Heidemann
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:21:48 EDT, Edward Lewis wrote: At 13:53 -0400 9/27/11, Joe Abley wrote: Not very useful for Neustar, maybe, but I would suggest that your requirements in this regard are likely not to be universal. No argument with that. But since the question was asked... What I meant

Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread Bill Woodcock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sep 27, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: Whether this is a DNSOP WG item rests on how broad the interest is On Sep 27, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: I for one am interested and willing to work on this (responding for bean

Re: [DNSOP] A new appoarch for identifying anycast name server instance

2011-09-27 Thread Masataka Ohta
Edward Lewis wrote: There's nothing wrong with anyone implementing this. But whether this is a DNSOP WG item rests on how broad the interest is and if there's a need to coordinate for interoperability reasons. Identification of a server is an issue to be handled by a unicast address at the