Re: [DNSOP] kskroll-sentinel and unclear results

2018-05-29 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On May 24, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On 23 May 2018, at 11:49, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> >> ​I for one would like to see proposed text - we can decide from that if it >> makes things clearer. > > The proposed text is at > https://github.com/APNIC-Labs/draft-kskroll-sentine

Re: [DNSOP] refer-down

2018-05-29 Thread Paul Vixie
John Levine wrote: ... I'm guessing that it's intended to mean return the answer if you already have it. If so, we should document that. I see that unbound makes it an option but normally refuses any RD=0 queries. it's a diagnostic query, like qtype=ANY, or qtype=NS. answering it should

Re: [DNSOP] refer-down

2018-05-29 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:52:23AM -0400, John Levine wrote: > >You mean, when a server that is not authoritative for anything > >nevertheless gets a query with RD==0? I think that's fine. How else > >do you debug a cache? > > I'm guessing that it's intended to mean return the answer if you > al

Re: [DNSOP] NXDOMAINs as in RFC 1034

2018-05-29 Thread Paul Vixie
Shumon Huque wrote: ... Ah, great. I couldn't remember whether 1034 described this explicitly. Thanks for quoting the relevant sentences. My point was that 1034 did not use the term "Empty Non Terminal", although as you point out here, it clearly describes the concept (an interior node with n

Re: [DNSOP] refer-down

2018-05-29 Thread John Levine
In article <20180529032839.ga18...@mx4.yitter.info> you write: >> I like it because I like anything that makes the DNS simpler. I'd >> make the advice clearer, authoritative servers that want to >> interoperate MUST refuse out of zone requests. > >This is an interesting suggestion. Thanks. >>

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-10

2018-05-29 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings. Over a month ago, we suggested that the document was ready for WG Last Call. If it isn't, we'd like to know what we need to fix in order to make it ready. --Paul Hoffman On 27 Apr 2018, at 12:28, Paul Hoffman wrote: Please see the diffs at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=dra

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-spacek-edns-camel-diet-01.txt

2018-05-29 Thread Petr Špaček
Hello dnsop, I've attempted to address concerns raised in dnsop about draft-spacek-edns-camel-diet-00. Main change from 00 is that mentions of FORMERR were replaced with reference to older standards. After all, the only important part of this draft is that responder MUST reply in a way which

Re: [DNSOP] NXDOMAINs as in RFC 1034

2018-05-29 Thread Shumon Huque
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:45 AM Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > > RFC 1034 states in 3.1 "The domain system makes no distinctions between > the uses of the interior nodes and leaves, and this memo uses the term > "node" to refer to both." > Right. > Then, it states in 3.6 "A domain name identifies a