[DNSOP] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-07: (with COMMENT)

2020-03-10 Thread Roman Danyliw via Datatracker
Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (A Common Operational Problem in DNS Servers - Failure To Communicate.) to Best Current Practice

2020-03-10 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 11 Mar 2020, at 00:54, Warren Kumari wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 8:28 PM Warren Kumari wrote: >> >> [ Note: CC list edited ] >> >> Hi there authors, >> >> During the IETF LC Stephane supported the document (an important >> document, worthy of publication), but noted that: >> 1:

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-10 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mar 10, 2020, at 18:10, Paul Hoffman wrote: > If we can determine when something in the realm of "almost all" DNSEC signing > with algorithms that use SHA-1 is done, then it is reasonable for the WG to > propose that software that validates DNSSEC can stop doing so. Which is quite

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-10 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 9, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > > Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> This confuses a harm purposely caused by authorities (in this case, the >> IETF), with self-harm (in this case, a zone owner who didn't hear about >> the importance of doing an algorithm rollover, or did hear but didn't

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 10/03/2020 19:11, Paul Vixie wrote: > On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:05:39 UTC Stephen Farrell wrote: >> Paul, >> >> ... >> >> What's the difference between having a port number >> as part of HTTPSSVC (or whatever we call it;-) in >> the DNS and having a web page on 443 that includes >>

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Patrick McManus
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 2:54 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > httpssvc is not > an alternate service description permitting fallback to the > non-alternative; > httpssvc is the service description itself. > 7.2. Relationship to Alt-Svc Publishing a ServiceForm HTTPSSVC record in DNS is intended to

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Paul Vixie
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:05:39 UTC Stephen Farrell wrote: > Paul, > > ... > > What's the difference between having a port number > as part of HTTPSSVC (or whatever we call it;-) in > the DNS and having a web page on 443 that includes > hrefs with https:// schemed URLs that are not using >

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Stephen Farrell
Paul, On 10/03/2020 18:54, Paul Vixie wrote: > the httpssvc "port" parameter leading > a service operator to put something on an "alternative origin" whose port > number will be broadly unrecognized by far end managed private networks, > which > would prevent flow-state creation, thus

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Paul Vixie
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:25:57 UTC Patrick McManus wrote: > alt-svc is quite robust to reachability failures of the alternative origins > should some client find itself on a network that filters full transit. > > This process is already existing technology (rfc 7838). From that > perspective

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Erik Nygren
We should also look at how and where we want to separate operational guidance from what mechanisms are available. Ideally we'd minimize foot-guns (hence the inclusion of a default transport, at least for the HTTPS use-cases) and we should have safe defaults, but I'm not sure to what degree we

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Patrick McManus
alt-svc is quite robust to reachability failures of the alternative origins should some client find itself on a network that filters full transit. This process is already existing technology (rfc 7838). From that perspective the DNS record is just a way to bootstrap it over DNS rather than the

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Paul Vixie
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:30:53 UTC Patrick McManus wrote: > another positive feature of ports in this record is that it provides some > address space independent of the origin security model of the URI. By this > I mean that https://www.foo.com(implicit :443) and https://www.foo.com:555 > are

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (A Common Operational Problem in DNS Servers - Failure To Communicate.) to Best Current Practice

2020-03-10 Thread Warren Kumari
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 8:28 PM Warren Kumari wrote: > > [ Note: CC list edited ] > > Hi there authors, > > During the IETF LC Stephane supported the document (an important > document, worthy of publication), but noted that: > 1: the document only deals with auth servers and that it should be >

[DNSOP] Last Call: (Multi Signer DNSSEC models) to Informational RFC

2020-03-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG (dnsop) to consider the following document: - 'Multi Signer DNSSEC models' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-10 Thread Patrick McManus
another positive feature of ports in this record is that it provides some address space independent of the origin security model of the URI. By this I mean that https://www.foo.com(implicit :443) and https://www.foo.com:555 are different origins with different web security boundaries. While two

[DNSOP] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-7706bis-10: (with COMMENT)

2020-03-10 Thread Mirja Kühlewind via Datatracker
Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-7706bis-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

Re: [DNSOP] AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec

2020-03-10 Thread Warren Kumari
Thank you - IETF LC has been started. W On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:48 PM Shumon Huque wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 3:21 PM Shumon Huque wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 9:24 PM Warren Kumari wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Firstly, thank you for a well written and easy to