[DNSOP] dnsop - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 108

2020-07-02 Thread "IETF Secretariat"
Dear Tim Wicinski, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. dnsop Session 1 (1:40 requested) Wednesday, 29 July 2020, Session I 1100-1240 Room Name: Room 3 size: 3

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-02 Thread Brian Dickson
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:14 AM Paul Hoffman wrote: > The interpretation of whether a partial RRset is allowed by 1035/2181 made > by JohnL, PaulV, and MukundS are all plausible and conflicting. RFC 1035 > and RFC 2181 are unclear about whether an RRset that is required in a reply > can be

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
The interpretation of whether a partial RRset is allowed by 1035/2181 made by JohnL, PaulV, and MukundS are all plausible and conflicting. RFC 1035 and RFC 2181 are unclear about whether an RRset that is required in a reply can be partial. draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional as it stands is

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-02 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:29:01PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > On Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:50:24 UTC John R Levine wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > ... but our goal should be to allow smart initiators to avoid > > > retrying with TCP out of reflex. my recommendation of TC=0 is

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Vixie
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:50:24 UTC John R Levine wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, Paul Vixie wrote: > > ... but our goal should be to allow smart initiators to avoid > > retrying with TCP out of reflex. my recommendation of TC=0 is to suppress > > reflexive TCP retries. > I wouldn't disagree but it

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-02 Thread John R Levine
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, Paul Vixie wrote: until someone invents faster than light travel, round trips and remote state will be the second and third most expensive things on the internet. (the most expensive thing is complexity.) i think we can usefully discuss whether to set TC=1 if the only thing

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Vixie
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 07:47:36 UTC Paul Vixie wrote: > On Thursday, 2 July 2020 01:18:16 UTC John Levine wrote: > > ... > > this is the draft where that issue would be decided, so it's good we're > talking about it. ... by the way, this is what kato and i, and later jabley, were trying to get

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Vixie
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 01:18:16 UTC John Levine wrote: > In article <9056955.dJ39pTEj9z@linux-9daj> you write: > >On Wednesday, 1 July 2020 09:41:49 UTC Jan Včelák wrote: > >> ... > > > >i think if you're using round robin or random selection, a subset is fine. > >if we had to codify this