Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-08 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi, On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 2:17 PM Peter Thomassen wrote: > On 10/7/22 19:46, Roy Arends wrote: > > Perhaps: > > > > What we refer to as "DNSSEC" is the third iteration of the DNSSEC > specification; [RFC2065] being the first, [RFC2535] being the second. > Earlier iterations have not been deploye

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Oct 7, 2022, at 14:18, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >  > I like Roy's text more than PaulW's two suggestions. Me too ! Paul ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 10/7/22 19:46, Roy Arends wrote: Perhaps: What we refer to as "DNSSEC" is the third iteration of the DNSSEC specification; [RFC2065] being the first, [RFC2535] being the second. Earlier iterations have not been deployed on a significant scale. Throughout this document, "DNSSEC" means the pr

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 7, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Roy Arends wrote: > > > >> On 7 Oct 2022, at 17:21, Paul Wouters wrote: >> >> On Fri, 7 Oct 2022, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> >>> On Monday, I'll do a new draft with: >>> >>> What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in >>> {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC40

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Roy Arends
> On 7 Oct 2022, at 17:21, Paul Wouters wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Oct 2022, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> On Monday, I'll do a new draft with: >> >> What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in >> {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}}. >> However, earlier incarnations of DNSS

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 07/10/2022 18.21, Paul Wouters wrote: Perhaps even: DNSSEC documents predating {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}} specify obsoleted DNS RRtypes that never saw deployment beyond early adopter testing, and haven't been deployed in nearly two decades, and are of no concern to implementers

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 7 Oct 2022, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Monday, I'll do a new draft with: What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}}. However, earlier incarnations of DNSSEC were thinly deployed and significantly less visible than the curr

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Monday, I'll do a new draft with: What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}}. However, earlier incarnations of DNSSEC were thinly deployed and significantly less visible than the current DNSSEC specification. ...unless there i

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 10/7/22 15:41, Warren Kumari wrote: I'm personally fine with Paul's proposed text, minor tweaks on "incarnations", Peter's modifications, whatever. I don't feel very strongly either way. Cheers, Peter -- https://desec.io/ ___ DNSOP mailing lis

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-07 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 3:59 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Oct 5, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Peter Thomassen wrote: > > On 10/5/22 20:25, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On 10/5/22 19:56, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > > I propose to replace that paragraph with: > What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-05 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 5, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Peter Thomassen wrote: > > On 10/5/22 20:25, Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> On 10/5/22 19:56, Paul Hoffman wrote: I propose to replace that paragraph with: What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-05 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 10/5/22 20:25, Paul Hoffman wrote: On 10/5/22 19:56, Paul Hoffman wrote: I propose to replace that paragraph with: What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}}. However, earlier incarnations of DNSSEC were thinly deployed and si

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-05 Thread Paul Hoffman
> On Oct 5, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Peter Thomassen wrote: > > Hi, > > On 10/5/22 19:56, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> I propose to replace that paragraph with: >> What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in >> {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}}. >> However, earlier incarnat

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-05 Thread John Dickinson
What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}}. However, earlier incarnations of DNSSEC were thinly deployed and significantly less visible than the current DNSSEC specification. Works for me. regards John

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-05 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi, On 10/5/22 19:56, Paul Hoffman wrote: I propose to replace that paragraph with: What we today call "DNSSEC" is the DNSSEC specification defined in {{RFC4033}}, {{RFC4034}}, and {{RFC4035}}. However, earlier incarnations of DNSSEC were thinly deployed and significantly less visible than th

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-04.txt

2022-10-05 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 5, 2022, at 10:44 AM, John Dickinson wrote: > > "What we today call "DNSSEC" is formally version 3 of the DNSSEC > specification." > > The only version number I know of in DNSSEC is the Protocol Field in a DNSKEY > RR. However this doesn't really version the whole of DNSSEC. > > So I