Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread Ted Lemon
On Feb 27, 2019, at 10:57 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Yep. After both domains have DNSSEC, then this could all be > simpler. Before they do, there may be value in the sigs though > see John's simplification suggestion at [1]. If they don’t have DNSSEC, what’s the point of saying the domains are

Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread John R. Levine
new signatures), I myself only copped on that this could be of some use where the primary has DNSSEC but where the secondary doesn't, which is maybe interesting. In that case, the primary can just publish pointers to the secondaries, and we're done. The DKIM-like signatures have an odd model

Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread David Conrad
Alexander, On Feb 27, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Brotman, Alexander wrote: > I'm supportive of doing this in other ways, but also understand that DNSSEC > is not widely deployed. There is a difference between not being deployed and not being turned on. My impression is that most DNS servers these

Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread Paul Wouters
:15 AM >> To: Paul Wouters ; Brotman, Alexander >> >> Cc: a...@ietf.org; dnsop@ietf.org; dbo...@ietf.org >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) >> Draft >> >> >> Hiya, >> >>> On 27/02/2019 15:54, Pau

Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: DNSOP On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 11:15 AM > To: Paul Wouters ; Brotman, Alexander > > Cc: a...@ietf.org; dnsop@ietf.org; dbo...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains

Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 27/02/2019 15:54, Paul Wouters wrote: > How is this data being consumed by the enduser ? Very good question. Sorry for what's likely a longer answer than you want:-) Alex and I chatted about that and I think ended up figuring: a) there are many potential semantics that could be

Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Paul, On 27/02/2019 15:48, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2019, Paul Wouters wrote: > >>>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brotman-rdbd/ >> >> I've read the draft, and I have my usual complaints. Thanks for taking a read! > I scanned this document a bit too fast, with an eye

Re: [DNSOP] [dbound] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

2019-02-27 Thread Brotman, Alexander
5 AM To: Brotman, Alexander Cc: a...@ietf.org; dnsop@ietf.org; Stephen Farrell ; dbo...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dbound] [DNSOP] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, Brotman, Alexander wrote: > Stephen and I have spent a bit of time working on a draft to be able