Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea (tm)

2009-10-08 Thread Olaf Kolkman
On Oct 7, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: From this perspective we might roll a ZSK more frequently than a KSK because the ZSK needs to be stored on-line to facilitate re-signing when the zone changes. With the KSK we have the option of keeping it off-line, and arguably the risk

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea (tm)

2009-10-07 Thread Olaf Kolkman
On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: hope I can address a few of the issues before Yokohama. s/Yokohama/Hiroshima/ Should I call my travel office? ;-) --Olaf Olaf M. KolkmanNLnet Labs

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea

2009-10-07 Thread Alfred Hönes
I already have posted a response to the original analysis by EKR, which has much overlap with the comments sent to this list by Olaf. Please see the original URL for the thread there, including my reasoning about operational impact and human factors:

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea (tm)

2009-10-07 Thread Joe Abley
[from a namedroppers thread, re-pointed as per Olaf's suggestion below] On 2009-10-07, at 09:23, Olaf Kolkman wrote: On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: I don't have a general position on ZSKs--perhaps it's a good idea for some other reason--but I don't think that rolling the

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea (tm)

2009-10-07 Thread Thierry Moreau
Joe Abley wrote: [from a namedroppers thread, re-pointed as per Olaf's suggestion below] On 2009-10-07, at 09:23, Olaf Kolkman wrote: On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: I don't have a general position on ZSKs--perhaps it's a good idea for some other reason--but I don't think

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea (tm)

2009-10-07 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 2:22 PM +0100 10/7/09, Joe Abley wrote: From this perspective we might roll a ZSK more frequently than a KSK because the ZSK needs to be stored on-line to facilitate re-signing when the zone changes. With the KSK we have the option of keeping it off-line, and arguably the risk of compromise

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea (tm)

2009-10-07 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: [from a namedroppers thread, re-pointed as per Olaf's suggestion below] On 2009-10-07, at 09:23, Olaf Kolkman wrote: On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: I don't have a general position on ZSKs--perhaps it's a

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsext] Why ZSK rollover is a Bad Idea (tm)

2009-10-07 Thread Joe Abley
On 2009-10-07, at 16:25, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 2:22 PM +0100 10/7/09, Joe Abley wrote: From this perspective we might roll a ZSK more frequently than a KSK because the ZSK needs to be stored on-line to facilitate re- signing when the zone changes. With the KSK we have the option of