Re: [DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-20 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 8/19/21 7:57 PM, Brian Dickson wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:40 AM Peter Thomassen mailto:pe...@desec.io>> wrote: Hi Brian, The proposal aims to authenticate parental NS and glue records by having the parent sign their hash digests, embedded in new types of DS records.

Re: [DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-19 Thread Brian Dickson
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:40 AM Peter Thomassen wrote: > Hi Brian, > > The proposal aims to authenticate parental NS and glue records by having > the parent sign their hash digests, embedded in new types of DS records. > > 1.) The separation of the data which requires authentication (parental

Re: [DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-19 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Brian, The proposal aims to authenticate parental NS and glue records by having the parent sign their hash digests, embedded in new types of DS records. 1.) The separation of the data which requires authentication (parental NS + glue records) from the place where authentication is provided

Re: [DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-13 Thread John R Levine
On Fri, 13 Aug 2021, Ben Schwartz wrote: I think we can summarize the recent DS-glue-signing drafts as follows: * draft-fujiwara-dnsop-delegation-information-signer: One new DS holding a hash of all the glue records. * draft-dickson-dnsop-ds-hack: Each new DS holds the hash of one glue RRSet *

Re: [DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-12 Thread Brian Dickson
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:21 PM, John Levine wrote: > > It appears that Brian Dickson said: >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> >> This is the work I will be submitting in DNSOP. >> >> This is what has been described as a “hack”, but provides a needed >> validation link for

Re: [DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-12 Thread John Levine
It appears that Brian Dickson said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >This is the work I will be submitting in DNSOP. > >This is what has been described as a “hack”, but provides a needed validation >link for authoritative servers where the latter are in >signed zones, but where the served zones may not be

Re: [DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-12 Thread fujiwara
Hello, I read draft-dickson-dnsop-ds-hack-00 and it proposes that - it assign three new DNSKEY algorithms (alg_ns, alg_A, alg_) - it generate 3 new DS RRs for all parent side NS RR and glue (A/) It will increase DS reponse 48bytes * 3 = 144 bytes. (in case of digest type 2) owner

[DNSOP] DS glue for NS draft

2021-08-11 Thread Brian Dickson
This is the work I will be submitting in DNSOP. This is what has been described as a “hack”, but provides a needed validation link for authoritative servers where the latter are in signed zones, but where the served zones may not be signed. NB: It overlaps with the recent DPRIVE draft that Ben