Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-21 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On 19 Dec 2017, at 10:08, Martin Hoffmann wrote: > Except that "child zone" should probably be "subordinate zones" or > something similar to also include (great)*grandchildren. If "ancestor" were acceptable, then the natural counterpart would be "descendant". 0,02 Niall O'Reilly signature.asc

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-19 Thread Martin Hoffmann
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 03:56:22AM +0100, > Martin Hoffmann wrote > a message of 38 lines which said: > > > > The current definition is restrictive: it mentions only name > > > servers. > > > > > > IMHO, "in-bailiwick" could be said for any domain name, even if >

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 03:56:22AM +0100, Martin Hoffmann wrote a message of 38 lines which said: > > The current definition is restrictive: it mentions only name servers. > > > > IMHO, "in-bailiwick" could be said for any domain name, even if it has > > less practical consequences than for n

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-18 Thread Martin Hoffmann
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:27:32AM -0800, > Paul Hoffman wrote > a message of 28 lines which said: > > > - In-bailiwick > > - Out-of-bailiwick > > The current definition is restrictive: it mentions only name servers. > > IMHO, "in-bailiwick" could be said for a

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-18 Thread Paul Hoffman
Thanks for the input. This is now slated for the next version of the draft. --Paul Hoffman ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:30:00AM +0900, fujiw...@jprs.co.jp wrote a message of 74 lines which said: > Adding examples as a table is good ? or too large ? No, not too large. It is a very good idea and this table is useful. ___ DNSOP mailing list D

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:27:32AM -0800, Paul Hoffman wrote a message of 28 lines which said: > - In-bailiwick > - Out-of-bailiwick The current definition is restrictive: it mentions only name servers. IMHO, "in-bailiwick" could be said for any domain name, even if it has less practical con

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-14 Thread George Michaelson
yes. this is good. -G On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > Thanks. > > Adding a example as a text is a little complicated. > > Adding examples as a table is good ? or too large ? > > Delegation | Parent | Name Server Name | Type > | Zone || > -

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-14 Thread fujiwara
Thanks. Adding a example as a text is a little complicated. Adding examples as a table is good ? or too large ? Delegation | Parent | Name Server Name | Type | Zone || +++-- com | .

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-13 Thread George Michaelson
feels like a concrete example in a.b.c.example.com terms would help define both in-baliwick, and out-of-baliwick, for the cases. On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:42 PM, wrote: > Thanks. > > terminology-bis-08: > | In-bailiwick: An adjective to describe a name server whose name is > |either subordin

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-13 Thread fujiwara
Thanks. terminology-bis-08: | In-bailiwick: An adjective to describe a name server whose name is |either subordinate to or (rarely) the same as the zone origin. Ok, In-bailwick in terminology-bis-08 may be restrictive because "the zone origin" is unclear. I intended that "the zone origin" is

Re: [DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Andrews
The text for "in-bailwick" is too restrictive, it doesn’t just cover NS records or glue records. In-bailwick refers to records that in the normal course of DNS resolution would have been requested of by the server the current response is from. e.g. if you are querying a .com server then all recor

[DNSOP] Please review in terminology-bis: In-bailiwick, Out-of-bailiwick, In-domain, Sibling domain

2017-12-04 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. Some of the new terms added to the terminology-bis draft (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis/)since RFC 7719 can be a bit tricky. This week, we hope you will look at the definitions in the draft for: - In-bailiwick - Out-of-bailiwick - In-domain