Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-24 Thread Edward Lewis
At 23:08 +0200 6/22/10, teemu.savolai...@nokia.com wrote: The hospital that does surgery on my foot probably gives me those inserts as well. What was unclear in the analogy is that the inserts are custom made, from a prescription. So, no, the hospital would not likely have the (same)

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-22 Thread teemu.savolainen
Hi, The problem in such discussions is harm to whom? The harm is that is we incorrectly solve this, we harm the overall architecture of the Internet. The issues I read pertained to the host, not the DNS, hence, to prevent harm to the architecture, the solution lies in the host. I see this

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-22 Thread teemu.savolainen
Because of foot surgery, I have to wear special inserts to my shoes. It would be good if all the shoes would have the insert so that I wouldn't have to remove and insert them each time I change shoes. But building in the support I need to the shoes means that others then can't use my shoes.

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-18 Thread teemu.savolainen
I'm in this list to clarify if this technology proposal causes issues for DNS:) But if the problem is seen as a host issue, not DNS, then this probably does not cause harm? So from DNS system point of view, do you see any issues if some networks would provide policies for some hosts to perform

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-18 Thread Edward Lewis
At 10:15 +0200 6/18/10, teemu.savolai...@nokia.com wrote: I'm in this list to clarify if this technology proposal causes issues for DNS:) But if the problem is seen as a host issue, not DNS, then this probably does not cause harm? The problem in such discussions is harm to whom? The harm is

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-17 Thread teemu.savolainen
Edward, Not necessarily. What I mean is that it is up to the multi-homed device to decide what interfaces are candidates (for the pending data transmission) and consult the DNS on each interface. However, what Yes, but how to decide that? Some information is required, and this draft

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-16 Thread teemu.savolainen
Hi Edward, and thank you for comments. The current state of multi-homed hosts do use interface specific DNS server lists, as described in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mif-current-practices/ If an interface is chosen before a DNS server there is no problem in selecting the DNS

Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-16 Thread Edward Lewis
I'm going to answer this in a general, architectural approach level, and not specific to particular issues. At 16:21 +0200 6/16/10, teemu.savolai...@nokia.com wrote: So from your point of view, it would be best for a host to contact DNS server's of all interfaces, and then use

[DNSOP] comments on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

2010-06-15 Thread Edward Lewis
At 14:22 +0200 6/15/10, teemu.savolai...@nokia.com wrote: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection/ Comments on the draft. In general, I think that architecturally a host has to treat each interface somewhat independently and then choose the interface to use