[DNSOP] Request for Adoption (draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations)

2018-11-28 Thread Giovane Moura
Folks, We have a new draft and we'd like to ask the WG to adopt it: * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations/ This is an informational draft that presents recommendations for authoritative DNS operators, based on research works we have been

Re: [DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-02.txt

2018-11-28 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 07:15:34PM +0530, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > Hi Stephen, Francis > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 04:56:50AM -0800, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the

Re: [DNSOP] request for adoption

2018-11-28 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Petr Špaček writes: > On 13. 11. 18 7:03, Paul Wouters wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>> we would like to ask the working group to adopt the following I-D as a >>> WG item: >>> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-00 >> >> I'll leave

Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
> On Nov 29, 2018, at 08:49, Ted Lemon wrote: > but I'd definitely be happier if the use case were more constrained How could the use case be more constrained without breaking functionality? > and the implementation advice were clearer. What is unclear ? Do you have suggested improvement

Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
> On Nov 29, 2018, at 09:20, Mark Andrews wrote: > > You can also just publish DS records for both DNSKEY RRsets with the caveat > that > both RRsets have to have all algorithms as is published in the combined DS > RRset. True. But than you are publishing non-public internal network details

Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?

2018-11-28 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 29 Nov 2018, at 11:47 am, Paul Wouters wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2018, at 04:53, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> >> helps mitigate this -- as Tero says above, the user would have to jump >> through many stupid hoops in order to make themselves vulnerable. > > That’s what we came up with when

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-28 Thread Jim Hague
On 28/11/2018 14:45, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Sara Dickinson wrote: >> Paul is correct in that the _intention_ of including these fields is >> just to provide informational meta data about the capturing process. I >> would suggest we change the first sentence of

[DNSOP] RFC 8501 on Reverse DNS in IPv6 for Internet Service Providers

2018-11-28 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8501 Title: Reverse DNS in IPv6 for Internet Service Providers Author: L. Howard Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date:

Re: [DNSOP] Request for Adoption (draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations)

2018-11-28 Thread StJohns, Michael
Hi - Do you have any authoritative server operators that have signed on to these recommendations other than the authors? if not, I’d suggest deferring this as a WG document pending some buy in from a few ops that are using these recommendations and can provide some real world context. E.g. how

Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?

2018-11-28 Thread Tero Kivinen
Tony Finch writes: > Joe Abley wrote: > > > > It seems to me that the intended use-case is access to corporate-like > > network environments where intranet.corporate-like.com might exist on > > the inside but not on the outside. > > More likely cases like corporate-like.local or

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-28 Thread Sara Dickinson
> From: Paul Hoffman > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > Date: 27 November 2018 at 14:59:51 GMT > To: Alexey Melnikov > Cc: dnsop , The IESG > > On Nov 27, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

Re: [DNSOP] request for adoption

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018, Petr Špaček wrote: MB 7 a mailbox domain name (EXPERIMENTAL) [RFC1035] MG 8 a mail group member (EXPERIMENTAL) [RFC1035] MR 9 a mail rename domain name (EXPERIMENTAL) [RFC1035] Is there any *technical* use for this field? Do we need it

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-28 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> *From: *Paul Hoffman >> *Subject: **Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on >> draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format- >> 08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)*>> *Date: *27 November 2018 at 14:59:51 GMT >> *To: *Alexey Melnikov >> *Cc:

[DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-mglt-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements-07.txt

2018-11-28 Thread Daniel Migault
Hi, Please find an updated version of the DNSSEC validator requirements document. The document reflect discussions we had in the Montreal and Bangkok meeting. In particular we describe the DNSSEC trust model. We suppose that is an important piece DNSSEC resolver operators needs to understand.

Re: [DNSOP] Request for Adoption (draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations)

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Ebersman
moura> We have a new draft and we'd like to ask the WG to adopt it: moura> [[https://datatracker..ietf.org/doc/draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations/]] msj> Do you have any authoritative server operators that have signed on msj> to these recommendations other than the

Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?

2018-11-28 Thread Warren Kumari
So, thank you everyone for commenting / the feedback... I've been mulling this over, and, while I really don't like it, I think that the: "IKE clients willing to accept INTERNAL_DNSSEC_TA attributes MUST use a whitelist of one or more domains that can be updated out of band. IKE clients with an

Re: [DNSOP] Request for Adoption (draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations)

2018-11-28 Thread Joe Abley
Hey Giovane, On 28 Nov 2018, at 04:55, Giovane Moura wrote: > We have a new draft and we'd like to ask the WG to adopt it: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations/ > > This is an informational draft that presents recommendations for > authoritative

Re: [DNSOP] Request for Adoption (draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations)

2018-11-28 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Hello Giovane, On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:56 PM Giovane Moura wrote: > This is an informational draft that presents recommendations for > authoritative DNS operators, based on research works we have been > conducting over the last few years. Thank you for sharing this! A few suggestions: > 5.

Re: [DNSOP] Request for Adoption (draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations)

2018-11-28 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >Do you have any authoritative server operators that have signed on to these >recommendations other than the authors? I run authoritative servers for about 500 small domains, but I suspect I am not the operator you are looking for. Perhaps a next step would

Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Nov 29, 2018, at 04:53, Warren Kumari wrote: > > > helps mitigate this -- as Tero says above, the user would have to jump > through many stupid hoops in order to make themselves vulnerable. That’s what we came up with when we talked to ekr. > If think that if the text around "that can be