[DNSOP] Copies of Drafts for draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required?

2007-06-07 Thread Dean Anderson
The datatracker doesn't have these drafts. (why not?) Does anyone have copies of each draft? I'm trying to chart the draft claims and the discussions and disputes, so that I can easily respond to assertions regarding the current incarnation of this draft. Thanks, --Dean --

Re: [DNSOP] Copies of Drafts for draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required?

2007-06-07 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Dean Anderson wrote: The datatracker doesn't have these drafts. (why not?) Does anyone have copies of each draft? I'm trying to chart the draft claims and the discussions and disputes, so that I can easily respond to assertions regarding the current incarnation of this

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-default-local-zones-01

2007-06-07 Thread Joe Abley
On 7-Jun-2007, at 01:20, Mark Andrews wrote: Show me the xml. There should be a way to do a table. t list t0.IN-ADDR.ARPA /* IPv4 THIS NETWORK *//t t127.IN-ADDR.ARPA /* IPv4 LOOP-BACK NETWORK *//t

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Thierry Moreau
Ted Lemon wrote: On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Thierry Moreau wrote: Blindly following the above ideology will result in less and less RFCs, hence less network standardization and/or standardization made by entities other than the IETF. Actually, what would result in fewer and fewer RFCs

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Thierry Moreau wrote: By the way, does IETF dnsop need to discuss a consensus-based DNSSEC root priming specification? I whish an open discussion is possible. You can't have the cake and eat it too. An open discussion seems impossible if one of the participants will then go

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Thierry Moreau
Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Thierry Moreau wrote: By the way, does IETF dnsop need to discuss a consensus-based DNSSEC root priming specification? I whish an open discussion is possible. You can't have the cake and eat it too. An open discussion seems impossible if one of

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:20:33AM -0400, Thierry Moreau wrote: OK, 0.02 worth of unsupported personal attacks against me. Out of topic. Counter-productive. Not worth replying. Perhaps the next time you think something is not worth replying to, you could follow that conclusion with what

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-default-local-zones-01

2007-06-07 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 07:18:01AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: On 7-Jun-2007, at 01:20, Mark Andrews wrote: Show me the xml. There should be a way to do a table. t list t0.IN-ADDR.ARPA /* IPv4 THIS NETWORK *//t

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:24:41AM -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:20:33AM -0400, Thierry Moreau wrote: OK, 0.02 worth of unsupported personal attacks against me. Out of topic. Counter-productive. Not worth replying. Perhaps the next time you think something is

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Dear colleagues, On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 05:24:21PM -0400, Thierry Moreau wrote: It's done. See https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?ipr_id=856 Thanks. Having read the disclosure, having quickly read the referenced draft draft-moreau-srvloc-dnssec-priming-01 including the

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Phil Regnauld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmanning) writes: actually, the key point here is that apparently a number of (good) people are avoiding the IETF process because they believe their ideas, intended to be partof open standards development, are being patented by others and then used

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Thierry Moreau wrote: I agree with your other post that such (IPR related!!??) discussions may prevent dnsop from addressing the on-topic issue, i.e. a consensus-based DNSSEC root priming specification. It is not the IPR discussion that is preventing this. It's the IPR.

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Thierry Moreau
Still off-topic, but please let me, for once, provide a constructive answer to a legitimate concern voiced by Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, the key point here is that apparently a number of (good) people are avoiding the IETF process because they believe their ideas,

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-07 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jun 7, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Thierry Moreau wrote: Coming back to the issue at hand, I see no need for misconceptions about IPR to detract work on draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming. Thierry, when people much smarter and more experienced than you have to defend themselves from you by doing