[DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread bert hubert
Hi everybody, Your input on the initial implementation described below would be most appreciated. I see this as a dns operations issue since it does not describe an on-the wire change, except when we do AXFR perhaps. It is mostly a feature. However, even features could have interoperability

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread bert hubert
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 08:13:46AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote: - What happens / should happen if the @ IN MX 25 outpost.ds9a.nl. record is not in the zone file and the server gets an MX query for example.com? It proxies that on as an MX query for www.powerdns.com and puts back the answer. So

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Paul Vixie
bert hubert mailto:bert.hub...@netherlabs.nl Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:52 AM ... PS: the above is currently not yet supported for DNSSEC domains! i'd be very interested in a standards-track (interoperable; including DNSSEC support and AXFR/IXFR) version of this feature. my hope is that

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Dick Franks
On 21 September 2014 19:14, bert hubert bert.hub...@netherlabs.nl wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 08:13:46AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote: PS: the above is currently not yet supported for DNSSEC domains! Can you say (much) more about that aside? Does it mean that the server An interesting

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Hi, This topic has come up here many times before, and there always seems to be interest. A fielded implementation and Paul's suggestion of an interoperable spec both seem like healthy developments. Suzanne On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote: bert

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Doug Barton
On 9/21/14 1:14 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: Hi, This topic has come up here many times before, and there always seems to be interest. A fielded implementation and Paul's suggestion of an interoperable spec both seem like healthy developments. As always I stand ready to revive

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/21/14 2:04 PM, Doug Barton wrote: | On 9/21/14 1:14 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: | Hi, | | This topic has come up here many times before, and there always | seems to be interest. A fielded implementation and Paul's | suggestion of an interoperable

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread David Conrad
On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 9/21/14 1:14 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: This topic has come up here many times before, And like the joke about the weather... and there always seems to be interest. A fielded implementation There are at least three

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Paul Vixie
David Conrad mailto:d...@virtualized.org Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:10 PM ... There are at least three implementations of 'alias mechanism for zone apex' I'm aware of (DNS Made Easy's ANAME, PowerDNS's ANAME (same thing?), and CloudFlare's CNAME Flattening). Not sure if they

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread David Conrad
Paul, On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote: (or even if there is a need for interoperability) i don't think it makes sense to question, inside the IETF, whether a vendor-independent interoperable standard is desirable. Who said anything about desirability? The

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Colm MacCárthaigh
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote: i'd be very interested in a standards-track (interoperable; including DNSSEC support and AXFR/IXFR) version of this feature. my hope is that you will remove out-of-zone capability here, that is, the target of ALIAS should

Re: [DNSOP] fyi [Pdns-users] Please test: ALIAS/ANAME apex record in PowerDNS

2014-09-21 Thread Suzanne Woolf
On Sep 21, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 9/21/14 1:14 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: This topic has come up here many times before, And like the joke about the weather... and there always seems