Hi,
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 03:28:24PM +1000, George Michaelson wrote:
> run a race, but bias the race towards the one you like? oky.. But
> once we're beyond a world where the V6 needs the bias, for anyone
> stuck on the vestigial 4-is-better space, this means they incurred
> *additional* con
Hi George,
Actually the idea of NHE is inspired partially by CDN stuff, which involve
lots of measurments
and route users to visit a best path against network dynamics. It proves
to be a good practice
for morden Internet. No doubt. I'm wondering CDN is also breaking DNSSEC to
stub-resolver, right
Davey,
If we’re discussing host based versus network based happy eyeballs, would it be
naive to think that the network based HE would interfere with the client’s HE?
A router knows very little about end to end properties of a connection. It
could of course do those measurements by looking deepl
Having a predictable bias seems better than an unpredictable one.
> On Sep 25, 2018, at 22:28, George Michaelson wrote:
>
> I'm not speaking for Owen. I'm speaking for myself. I asked a
> question. Is this really a long-term defensible thing to do? Do we
> want HE forever?
>
> run a race? thats f
I'm not speaking for Owen. I'm speaking for myself. I asked a
question. Is this really a long-term defensible thing to do? Do we
want HE forever?
run a race? thats fine. But, as the thread here notes, the
second-by-second conditions which leads one TCP to return SYN-ACK
before another can be volat
What better idea did you mean?
Being able to select a protocol based on what works best for the
end-user does not seem like a terrible end-state for the end-user,
short- or long-term.
> On Sep 25, 2018, at 21:25, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> It was never a good idea. It was a necessary evil (kind of l
It was never a good idea. It was a necessary evil (kind of like NAT in that
regard) to expeditiously deal with a somewhat tenacious (at the time) problem
which has since been given a significantly better solution, but so long as the
workaround appears to be working, people are loathe to put in t
I have said before, but don't know if I still adhere to it, but
anyways, here's a question: How *long* do people think a biassing
mechanism like HE is a good idea?
* is it a good idea *forever*
* or is it a transition path mechanism which has an end-of-life?
* how do we know, when its at end-
>
> But in the general case the network cannot.
> Think host multi-homing.
>
Yes or no.
Generally speaking the races of IPv6 and IPv4 connections on both network
and client are going to be suffered by netowrk dynamics, including
Multi-homing, route flaps, roaming, or other network falilures. Ext
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> This hints at a general misunderstanding on how "The Internet" works.
>
> Talking to the local ISP on "what would you recommend, IPv4 or IPv6?"
> can give an indication, but if the server you're trying to talk to
> is on the other side of the world, the local ISP's preference for
> IPv4-vs-IPv
>
> This hints at a general misunderstanding on how "The Internet" works.
>
> Talking to the local ISP on "what would you recommend, IPv4 or IPv6?"
> can give an indication, but if the server you're trying to talk to
> is on the other side of the world, the local ISP's preference for
> IPv4-vs-IPv6
To get to know the current status of HE , I did a simple test on my handy
devices visit top 20 website or open existing apps (currently only DNS). I
captured &A DNS query pairs (intervel less than 10s) and count HE query
pairs whoes interval less than 100ms. There is a prelimiary result:
1) My
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:30:05AM +0800, Davey Song wrote:
> Before I put down this draft, I talked with some CPs (content/app
> providers) and ISPs, they have motivations and requirement on this. One
> example is Tencent, they are planning to deploy a complicated measurement
> network to in
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