Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sury-deprecate-obsolete-resource-records-01.txt

2019-05-12 Thread Joe Abley
On 13 May 2019, at 11:06, Ondřej Surý wrote: > But I do have a question for the WG - should we add a text that would allow > the “Expert Review” to formally > DEPRECATE (as defined in this I-D) other RRTYPEs? This would make things > much simpler in the > future when we want to formally

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sury-deprecate-obsolete-resource-records-01.txt

2019-05-12 Thread Jim Reid
On 13 May 2019, at 05:06, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > But I do have a question for the WG - should we add a text that would allow > the “Expert Review” to formally DEPRECATE (as defined in this I-D) other > RRTYPEs? I'm not sure an expert reviewer could or should be in a position to make that

Re: [DNSOP] TA signal - suggestion to enhance signal

2019-05-12 Thread George Michaelson
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:21 AM Wessels, Duane wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions. I think the first discussion needs to be whether > there is support for better signals at the expense of possibly less privacy. > My sense of the way things are today is that "privacy is king." > > DW I

Re: [DNSOP] TA signal - suggestion to enhance signal

2019-05-12 Thread Brian Dickson
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:21 AM Wessels, Duane wrote: > > > > On May 13, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Brian Dickson < > brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The original RFC 8145 gives the ability to gather trust anchor signal > data. > > > > There are limitations related to inferring either

Re: [DNSOP] TA signal - suggestion to enhance signal

2019-05-12 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On May 13, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Brian Dickson > wrote: > > The original RFC 8145 gives the ability to gather trust anchor signal data. > > There are limitations related to inferring either reasons for behavior > observed on the aggregate volumes, or identifying originating >

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sury-deprecate-obsolete-resource-records-01.txt

2019-05-12 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, I still would like to continue with this and I still think it’s a no brainer and I know this is super uninteresting to anyone but the DNS software vendors. But I do have a question for the WG - should we add a text that would allow the “Expert Review” to formally DEPRECATE (as defined in

[DNSOP] TA signal - suggestion to enhance signal

2019-05-12 Thread Brian Dickson
The original RFC 8145 gives the ability to gather trust anchor signal data. There are limitations related to inferring either reasons for behavior observed on the aggregate volumes, or identifying originating resolvers/forwarders versus upstream resolvers/forwarders (which could include both NAT

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME high-level benefit question

2019-05-12 Thread Ondřej Surý
Also, I would argue that the ability to run ANAME at your own infrastructure might drive less people to the “managed DNS” land or allow them to migrate away without a significant loss of functionality. One way or another, ANAME-like behaviour became defacto industry standard and we need to have a