Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

2021-05-13 Thread John R Levine
Pushing text processing onto the client does not reduce the complexity; it just moves it to people who are less likely to be reading DNSOP. Notably, it moves that responsibility to a place where typical text processing errors are far more dangerous, and malicious inputs are far more likely. I

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

2021-05-13 Thread John R Levine
On Thu, 13 May 2021, Ben Schwartz wrote: SVCB's key=value zone-file format is borrowed straight from DNS-SD (RFC 6763); it is not new to DNS users. Hey, wait a minute. DNS-SD just sticks the "key=value" strings as-is into text fields. Now that I look closer, I see what Brian's objection is

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

2021-05-13 Thread Ben Schwartz
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 3:56 AM libor.peltan wrote: > Hi all, > > just my comment: > > Perhaps complexity is subjective. The important thing is that the > standard be reasonably implementable. I hope that the list of published > implementations [3] will serve as convincing evidence that the

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

2021-05-13 Thread libor.peltan
Hi all, just my comment: Perhaps complexity is subjective.  The important thing is that the standard be reasonably implementable.  I hope that the list of published implementations [3] will serve as convincing evidence that the current draft is sufficient in that regard. --Ben I agree

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-hardaker-dnsop-nsec3-guidance

2021-05-13 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 11/05/2021 18.17, Wes Hardaker wrote: I'd also expect something on limits accepted by secondaries.  And some details are probably up to further discussion (e.g. particular numbers and SERVFAIL), but I don't think such details would block adoption. That's certainly an interesting thing to

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

2021-05-13 Thread Brian Dickson
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Ben Schwartz wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 7:14 PM Brian Dickson < > brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It is demonstrably more likely that a complex parser will have problems, >> than something that combines data from simple RRs in simple RRsets will