Re: [DNSOP] DNSOPMoving forward on draft-ietf-dnsop-private-tld

2021-08-01 Thread Michael StJohns
Hi Warren - I knew of most of these and am impressed you were able to grab all of them in summary form so quickly.  But - that's a lot of documents to say something so simple as "don't squat".    I agree that, collectively, the documents say "don't squat", I wonder if they say it succinctly

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOPMoving forward on draft-ietf-dnsop-private-tld

2021-08-01 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 6:04 PM Michael StJohns wrote: > Actually, maybe there should be a general document "DNS Squatting > Considered Harmful"? I think that we (well, mainly ICANN) already have a large amount that says things along these lines. See below.. > I personally don't see any real

Re: [DNSOP] Moving forward on draft-ietf-dnsop-private-tld

2021-08-01 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Hi, [Employed by ISOC, speaking for self] Speaking as usual only for myself, it seems to me that if there were actual demand for a WG that would actually W as a G on actual extensions, it would be pretty trivial to charter it. What would be bad IMO is a “working group” that functioned instead

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOPMoving forward on draft-ietf-dnsop-private-tld

2021-08-01 Thread Michael StJohns
Actually, maybe there should be a general document "DNS Squatting Considered Harmful"?   I personally don't see any real difference between squatting on "onion" vs squatting on "zz" except that we ended up with a ex post facto approval of .onion.   And that AIRC was a near thing. So maybe:

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOPMoving forward on draft-ietf-dnsop-private-tld

2021-08-01 Thread Roy Arends
> On 30 Jul 2021, at 23:34, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > Roy Arends writes: > >> Essentially, instead of making the pond safe, we’ll have a warning >> sign that using the pond is at their own risk. > > The wording of said warning sign is the critical element, IMHO. > Certainly my support of the

Re: [DNSOP] Moving forward on draft-ietf-dnsop-private-tld

2021-08-01 Thread Roy Arends
> On 30 Jul 2021, at 23:03, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote: > > Hi Roy, WG, Hi Rob, > Roy, just for clarity, am I right to presume that the status of the document > that you propose would purely be informational? Correct. > It is, of course, up to the WG to decide what to do with this