Re: [DNSOP] [v6ops] WG call for adoption: draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-01

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 6 Jul 2023, at 12:32, Ted Lemon wrote: > > It’s not a problem to validate before translating if you’re a full service > resolver. Ted you are missing the point. It is impossible to *reliably* run a validating client behind a DNS64 server. DNS64 uses CD in a manner that is

Re: [DNSOP] Secdir early review of draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-01

2023-07-05 Thread Shumon Huque
On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:46 AM Paul Wouters wrote: > > > ### CNAME chaining > > > > In §3.2 we see the text "Another issue with CNAME records is that they > must > > not point to another CNAME" provided, with no reference. But CNAME > chains are > > in heavy use on the internet in practice

Re: [DNSOP] Feedback on draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-01

2023-07-05 Thread Shumon Huque
On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 4:52 PM Erik Nygren wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you for pulling together this draft! Having worked on related > systems a number of times it will be valuable to have something here > standardized. > Thanks for the review Erik, sorry for our very late response, and thanks

Re: [DNSOP] [v6ops] WG call for adoption: draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-01

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Andrews
I’ll repeat that it is a bad idea to make this an RFC. I’m saying this despite adding this to named. It is perpetuating DNS64 which does not work with DNSSEC. It sends the wrong signal that DNS64 is a good protocol to deploy when we know that it breaks lots of things. The better solution

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

2023-07-05 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Duane, On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 18:32, Wessels, Duane <[dwessels=40verisign@dmarc.ietf.org](mailto:On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 18:32, Wessels, Duane < wrote: > On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > >> I wonder whether another subsection of section 2 would be useful to discuss >>

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-13.txt

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The authors of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation worked with different implementers to expand upon the index of Known Implementations, and what they implement specifically. The chairs would like to have a one week follow up Working Group Last Call comment period. We are looking for

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

2023-07-05 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > > > > I have read -04. i like it. I think it's useful and sensible and it should be > published. Whether this particular rev is ready for publication I would say > depends on whether the authors disagree with all the pedantic nonsense that

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: Consistency for CDS/CDNSKEY and CSYNC is Mandatory

2023-07-05 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Libor, On 6/26/23 13:56, libor.peltan wrote: My concerns are based on following situation. Imagine that:  - two servers publish inconsistent CDNSKEY+CDS records for some reason, e.g. misconfiguration. This is the exact thing that the draft tries to address.  - this persists for quite

Re: [DNSOP] Dnsdir early review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-04

2023-07-05 Thread Rose, Scott W. (Fed)
On 4 Jul 2023, at 10:03, Peter Thomassen wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Thank you very much for your feedback -- responses inline. > o "inline" the actual definition, but that was just a feeling.) > >> Also, “Signaling Name” sounds >> confusing compared to the Signaling Domain. Would it be easier to

Re: [DNSOP] Feedback on draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-01

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
Erik I placed your excellent comments into the author's issue tracker, then we decided to split them up into separate issues. Take a look to confirm. If anything is wrong, it's one me tim APEX domains, and hostnames vs domains

Re: [DNSOP] Next steps: draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap

2023-07-05 Thread Ben Schwartz
I think firmware size is a perfectly reasonable and sufficient motivation for this draft, but I don't think it can be described as "performance". --Ben Schwartz From: Christian Amsüss Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 12:17 PM To: Ben Schwartz Cc: Martine Sophie

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOPReminder: Please review draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-dane

2023-07-05 Thread Ben Schwartz
From: DNSOP on behalf of Viktor Dukhovni Quoting from the draft: ... > If the initial TLSA base domain is the start of a secure CNAME chain, > clients MUST first try to use the end of the chain as the TLSA base > domain, with fallback to the initial base domain, as described

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Thanks for all the feedback on this document. We chairs understand there are some questions around privacy considerations. However, there was no comments on DNSOP adopting this work to resolve those issues. The document can go to the Independent Stream Editor and we can point them to this

Re: [DNSOP] Next steps: draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap

2023-07-05 Thread Christian Amsüss
Hello Ben, picking one of the points in the thread and leaving the rest to another subthread: > > We have a paper on the performance benefits just accepted for CoNEXT, > > which we will cite once it is published. An early pre-print (the final > > paper underwent some major revisions though) is

Re: [DNSOP] [v6ops] WG call for adoption: draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-01

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
Momoka Thanks for making DNSOP aware of this. We encourage anyone with comments on the document adoption to reach out. Everything I've heard and read on this work (wearing no hats) is that this is good work and should be adopted. thanks tim On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:15 AM Momoka Yamamoto

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOPReminder: Please review draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-dane

2023-07-05 Thread Ben Schwartz
From: Wes Hardaker Ben Schwartz writes: A few comments: 1. the MUST NOT in the first paragraph in 5.2 really feels like it should be a SHOULD NOT. Though its not wise, there could be scenarios where someone really wants to do it and if they feel it's operationally possible then they should

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The Working Group Last Call has completed and the chairs thank everyone for their comments. It appears that the authors have addressed all issues, and the document is ready to advance. tim On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 11:00 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > This starts a Working Group Last

Re: [DNSOP] Dnsdir early review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-04

2023-07-05 Thread Roy Arends
Thanks James, I will update the Drink POC link Warmly, Roy > On 7 Jun 2023, at 22:10, James Gannon via Datatracker > wrote: > > Reviewer: James Gannon > Review result: Ready > > Hi Folks, > I am the assigned DNSDIR reviewer for this draft. > Thank you for a well-written draft that appears

Re: [DNSOP] Secdir early review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-04

2023-07-05 Thread Roy Arends
Yaron, many thanks for your review. Comments inline: > On 26 Jun 2023, at 13:24, Yaron Sheffer via Datatracker > wrote: > > Reviewer: Yaron Sheffer > Review result: Has Nits > > I am not a DNS expert so these may or may not be real issues. But I would > appreciate the authors' clarifications.

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting

2023-07-05 Thread Roy Arends
Viktor, thanks for your feedback. Comments inline. > On 26 Jun 2023, at 22:13, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:59:59AM +0200, Benno Overeinder wrote: > >> This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: >> June 22nd, 2023. > > I hope my feedback is

Re: [DNSOP] Dnsdir early review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-03

2023-07-05 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Matt, Di, Thank you for the follow-up. We released a new version that addresses both your reviews. FWIW, a diff to track the changes can be seen at: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-03=draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-04=--html Cheers,

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-04.txt

2023-07-05 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations (DNSOP) WG of the IETF. Title : Structured Error Data for Filtered DNS Authors : Dan Wing

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-13.txt

2023-07-05 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations (DNSOP) WG of the IETF. Title : Fragmentation Avoidance in DNS Authors : Kazunori Fujiwara Paul