Re: [DNSOP] Do we need new draft that recommends number limits ?

2024-03-12 Thread John R Levine
On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, Mark Andrews wrote: The obvious example is CNAME chains. In 1034/1035 the only use contemplated for CNAME was temporary forwarding when a host name changed, and for that use, chained CNAMEs made no sense. Now they delegate authority to different points of control in many

Re: [DNSOP] Do we need new draft that recommends number limits ?

2024-03-12 Thread Mark Delany
On 13Mar24, Mark Andrews apparently wrote: > > ways. For applications like CDNs, you need two or three link CNAME > > chains and nobody appears to find that a problem. > > Actually it is a problem. It results in lots of additional lookups. > of this. All of the CNAMES could be done in the

Re: [DNSOP] Do we need new draft that recommends number limits ?

2024-03-12 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 13 Mar 2024, at 03:46, John Levine wrote: > > It appears that Paul Vixie said: >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> <> >> I think it would be better to compile them all into one draft.>> > > I agree a draft describing the places where DNS evaluators > should set limits would be a good idea. > > I am

Re: [DNSOP] Do we need new draft that recommends number limits ?

2024-03-12 Thread John Levine
It appears that Paul Vixie said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >< >I think it would be better to compile them all into one draft.>> I agree a draft describing the places where DNS evaluators should set limits would be a good idea. I am considerably less enthusastic about specific limits, since the use of the

Re: [DNSOP] Do we need new draft that recommends number limits ?

2024-03-12 Thread Paul Vixie
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[DNSOP] Do we need new draft that recommends number limits ?

2024-03-12 Thread Kazunori Fujiwara
With DNS, there are several things to consider, such as the number and number of times that can complicate name resolution or cause DoS. For example, number of CNAME chains or number of chains of "unrelated" name server names are not limited. (Each implementations limit.) "KeyTrap" also seems to

Re: [DNSOP] unrelated name server name recommendation

2024-03-12 Thread Kazunori Fujiwara
Thanks, Daune, > From: "Wessels, Duane" > I understood Fujiwara’s proposal to be slightly different: > > If you are a DNS provider (hosting other zones) then the provider should use > in-domain name servers. > DW This is what I would like to propose. I would like good texts. As Shumon