Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Reserved field in draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest-04.txt

2018-11-03 Thread Wes Hardaker
Paul Hoffman writes: > From the earlier list discussion and your presentation at DNS-OARC, > processing dynamic zones is hard, and you might make different choices > based on different amounts of dynamicness (dynamicity?). This should > cause developers concern about implementing ZONEMD now

Re: [DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-02.txt

2018-11-03 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 03:12:28PM +0700, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > The D flag seems unnecessary. Just the presence of the EDNS option in > query from the client should serve to indicate to a server that the > client explicitly does not want stale answers. I withdraw this comment. It appears that

[DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-02.txt

2018-11-03 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
I've reviewed older revisions of the draft and still +1 the idea. It would be useful practically in today's world where temporary DDoS attacks inundate authorities. Review comments on this revision of the draft: >This document proposes that the definition of the TTL be explicitly >

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover choices

2018-11-03 Thread Wes Hardaker
Joe Abley writes: > I think the wider problem space might be better described as trust > anchor publication and retrieval. Couldn't have said it better myself (more specifically, I didn't). The problem space is much bigger than 5011, and 5011 is but one tool to solve a piece of the whole

Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems

2018-11-03 Thread Lanlan Pan
Brian Dickson 于2018年11月2日周五 上午9:38写道: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:14 PM John Levine wrote: > >> I can't help but note that people all over the Internet do various >> flavors of ANAME now, and the DNS hasn't fallen over. Let us not make >> the same mistake we did with NAT, and pretend that since

Re: [DNSOP] Minimum viable ANAME

2018-11-03 Thread Ray Bellis
On 21/09/2018 20:12, Dan York wrote: I do think this is a path we need to go.  We need *something* like CNAME at the apex.  Either CNAME itself or something that works in the same way but might have a different name. I agree, and earlier today (well, yesterday, now) I wrote it up: A new

[DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-7706bis-01.txt

2018-11-03 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Review comments follow: > Decreasing Access Time to Root Servers by Running One On The Same Server > draft-ietf-dnsop-7706bis-01 > Abstract >Some DNS recursive resolvers have longer-than-desired round-trip >times to the closest DNS root server. Some DNS recursive

Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems

2018-11-03 Thread Joe Abley
On Nov 3, 2018, at 03:20, Bob Harold wrote: > My preference would be a *NAME record that specifies which record types it > applies to. So one could delegate A and at apex to a web provider, MX > to a mail provider, etc. That would also be valuable at non-apex names. But > I am happy

Re: [DNSOP] Minimum viable ANAME

2018-11-03 Thread Erik Nygren
How does draft-schwartz-httpbis-dns-alt-svc-02 with some changes to make it more DNS-aligned (e.g. the name as a separate field in the record) not help here? It comes from the HTTP world and is aligned with the existing AltSvc feature and thus is useful in other ways (such as perhaps solving the

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-15.txt

2018-11-03 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : DNS Scoped Data Through "Underscore" Naming of Attribute Leaves Author : Dave Crocker

Re: [DNSOP] Minimum viable ANAME

2018-11-03 Thread Paul Vixie
Ray Bellis wrote: On 21/09/2018 20:12, Dan York wrote: I do think this is a path we need to go. We need *something* like CNAME at the apex. Either CNAME itself or something that works in the same way but might have a different name. I agree, and earlier today (well, yesterday, now) I

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix-06.txt

2018-11-03 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : DNS Attrleaf Changes: Fixing Specifications with Underscored Node Name Use Author : Dave

Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems

2018-11-03 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems Date: Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 12:04:18PM -0700 Quoting Joe Abley (jab...@hopcount.ca): > On Nov 3, 2018, at 03:20, Bob Harold wrote: > > > My preference would be a *NAME record that specifies which record types it > > applies to. So one could

Re: [DNSOP] Minimum viable ANAME

2018-11-03 Thread Ray Bellis
On 04/11/2018 06:53, Paul Vixie wrote: the arguments against SRV in that document are unsupported and wrong. They are something of a straw man, yes. We did hear unequivocally at the side meeting in Montreal that SRV is not acceptable to the HTTP folks, though, for the broad reasons

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Reserved field in draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest-04.txt

2018-11-03 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > Paul Hoffman writes: > >> From the earlier list discussion and your presentation at DNS-OARC, >> processing dynamic zones is hard, and you might make different choices >> based on different amounts of dynamicness (dynamicity?). This

Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems

2018-11-03 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 3 Nov 2018, at 23:32, Måns Nilsson wrote: > _http._tcp.example.org. IN URI10 20 > "https://example-lb-frontend.hosting.namn.se:8090/path/down/in/filestructure/; > > We already have this. We need not build a new mechanism. +1 Patrik signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-15.txt

2018-11-03 Thread John R. Levine
I'm also somewhat confused by the quoting in: "In the case of the "SRV" "RR" and "URI" "RR", distinguishing among different types" (and in "defining "RR"s that might" ) - I'm not sure if it is intentional, but it doesn't align with much of the rest of the formatting, and is (IMO) confusing