Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-18 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 18 Mar 2024, at 9:32 AM, Dave Lawrence wrote: > > Shumon Huque writes: >> The draft allows (but does not proscribe) NXDOMAIN to be inserted >> into the Rcode for non DNSSEC enabled responses. I guess the main >> reason for not being proscriptive was what I mentioned - there were >>

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-17 Thread Dave Lawrence
Shumon Huque writes: > The draft allows (but does not proscribe) NXDOMAIN to be inserted > into the Rcode for non DNSSEC enabled responses. I guess the main > reason for not being proscriptive was what I mentioned - there were > deployments in the field that didn't. But I'm amenable to tightening

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-17 Thread John R Levine
On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Shumon Huque wrote: The draft allows (but does not proscribe) NXDOMAIN to be inserted into the Rcode for non DNSSEC enabled responses. I guess the main reason for not being proscriptive was what I mentioned - there were deployments in the field that didn't. ... You're

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-17 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 9:08 AM John Levine wrote: > It appears that Dave Lawrence said: > >Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: > >> > One current implementation does not differentiate DO=0 vs 1 and gives > the > >> > same NODATA answer for both cases. > >> > >> Yes. I see no practical problem with

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-17 Thread John Levine
It appears that Dave Lawrence said: >Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: >> > One current implementation does not differentiate DO=0 vs 1 and gives the >> > same NODATA answer for both cases. >> >> Yes. I see no practical problem with that but, from a philosophical >> point of view, it disturbs me.

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-16 Thread Dave Lawrence
Shumon Huque writes: > I've been told the other way is confusing too - we get a different response > depending on the value of the DO flag. Since it isn't clear to me which way > is the least worse, I'm fine with leaving the text as is. Of course, we already get different responses depending on

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-16 Thread Dave Lawrence
Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: > > One current implementation does not differentiate DO=0 vs 1 and gives the > > same NODATA answer for both cases. > > Yes. I see no practical problem with that but, from a philosophical > point of view, it disturbs me. Naive clients may make wrong > conclusions from

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-16 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 01:27:00PM -0700, > Shumon Huque wrote > a message of 236 lines which said: > > > > * is there an EDE which is recommended when replying to an > > > explicit request for a meta-type (like QTYPE=NXNAME)? > > >

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 01:27:00PM -0700, Shumon Huque wrote a message of 236 lines which said: > > * is there an EDE which is recommended when replying to an > > explicit request for a meta-type (like QTYPE=NXNAME)? > > It doesn't, but could. I don't see an obviously applicable EDE code

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-16 Thread Shumon Huque
On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:45 AM Peter Thomassen wrote: > Hi Shumon et al., > > On 3/5/24 08:15, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt is now > > available. It is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations > (DNSOP) WG > > of

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-16 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 1:10 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 02:15:55PM -0800, > internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote > a message of 48 lines which said: > > > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt is now > > available. It is a work item of the

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 02:15:55PM -0800, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote a message of 48 lines which said: > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt is now > available. It is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations (DNSOP) WG > of the IETF. I just

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-14 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Shumon et al., On 3/5/24 08:15, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: Internet-Draft draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations (DNSOP) WG of the IETF. I added a PR with some suggestions here:

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt

2024-03-04 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-03.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations (DNSOP) WG of the IETF. Title: Compact Denial of Existence in DNSSEC Authors: Shumon Huque Christian Elmerot Olafur