', and 'literallayout' in
favor of 'verbatim' at some point in the future.
We could remove programlisting too, but I'm very hesitant to do that.
Be seeing you,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Man's great
.
Be seeing you,
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The finest amusements are the most
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | pointless ones.--Jacques Chardonne
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee |
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Consistency requires you to be as
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | ignorant today as you were a year
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | ago.--Bernard Berenson
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Time is a great teacher, but
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | unfortunately it kills all its
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | pupils.--Berlioz
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http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | examines all
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | offenders.--Shakespeare
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formatting of admonitions.
o Added support for entrytbl.
o Support spanning index terms.
o Support bibliosource.
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| * Makefile: Exclude the debian directory from
support for entrytbl.
o Support spanning index terms.
o Support bibliosource.
ChangeLog:
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| * .cvsignore: Ignore the debian directory
|
| * Makefile: Don't
. If the import
statement at the top of xslt.py can't find libxml2, I'm clueless.
Daniel? Oh, Daniel?!... :-)
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | A language is a dialect that has
http://www.oasis
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Time makes more converts than
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | reason.--Tom Paine
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee |
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[5] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-tc/200207/msg9.html
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | If you are hankering
.
| Agenda
|
| 1. Roll call
Attendees
Dennis Evans
Dick Hamilton
Nancy Harrison
Sabine Ocker
Michael Smith
Bob Stayton
Norman Walsh
Regrets:
Paul Grosso
| 2. Accepting the minutes[1] of the previous meeting
Accepted.
| 3. Review of the agenda
Accepted.
| 4. Review of open
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | So, are you working on finding
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | that bug now, or are you leaving
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | it until later? Yes.
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norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To create a little flower is the
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | labour of ages.--Blake
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee |
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.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The First Amendment is often
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | inconvenient. But that is besides
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | the point. Inconvenience
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Everything we love, no doubt, will
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | pass away, perhaps tomorrow,
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | perhaps a thousand years hence
| /biblioentry
|
| Neither HTML nor PDF style can render this.
Fixed.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The perfect man has no method; or
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | rather the best
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Someone has changed your life.
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | Save? (y/n)
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee |
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Man's sensitivity to little things
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | and insensitivity to the greatest
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | are the signs of a strange
| disorder.--Pascal
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| Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
| I'm trying to recap where we stand on this proposal.
|
| There seems to be general agreement that it's a good idea. The
| question is, exactly what
?
What tools are you processing with?
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have often wondered why I [keep]
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | going...There [can] be no hope and
Chair
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Life always comes to a bad
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | end.--Marcel Aymé
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee |
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validation. This is possible using the XNI interfaces in Xerces, though
I don't know of any code that implements it that way (yet).
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The firmest line
) is broken.
| Is there any fix for this?
Use a better parser.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Success is relative; it is what we
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | make of the mess we have
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The firmest line that can be drawn
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | upon the smoothest paper is still
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | jagged edges if seen through a
| microscope
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | A man must have grown old and
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | lived long in order to see how
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | short life is.--Schopenhauer
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Success is relative; it is what we
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | make of the mess we have made of
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | things.--T. S. Eliot
the javascript is
| removed from the code.
|
| regards DaveP
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Success is relative; it is what we
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | make of the mess we
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | More men become good through
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | practice than through
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | nature.--Democritus of Abdera
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Man is the only animal who causes
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | pain to others with no other
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | object than wanting to do
| so.--Schopenhauer
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to do.
Are you using real saxon or instant saxon?
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Until death, it is all
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | life.--Cervantes
Chair, DocBook
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do not try to live forever. You
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | will not succeed.--George Bernard
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | Shaw
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of the story, I think, is don't profile on the 'role'
attribute. Use 'condition' or any of the other effectivity
attributes.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The fact of having been born
.
Be seeing you,
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The effects of weakness are
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | inconceivable, and more prodigious
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | than those of the most
to do the right thing.
Be seeing you,
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Syllables govern the world.--John
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | Selden
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee |
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Look for the ridiculous in
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | everything and you will find
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | it.--Jules Renard
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http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=117753
Changes since version 1.56.1 (2002-10-09)
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| 2002-10-22 Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| * VERSION: Version 1.57.0
' attribute is for things like Photo credit A.
Nonymous, 1976, not the alt text.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Any sufficiently undocumented code
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook
presentation, write that down somewhere.
It'll save you hours of pain later when you give the document to
someone else to process and they use some different tools.
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,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | When told of a man who had
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | acquired great wealth, a sage
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | replied, 'Has he also acquired the
| days in which to spend
) : )
(list (normalize warning) )
))
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Faith makes many of the mountains
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | which it has to remove
that the element
| address in website.dtd was undefined. Thinking that this might be
Hmm. How embarrassing. Apparently my customization layer is...uhm,
imperfect. I'll fix that :-)
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.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | All the good maxims already exist
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | in the world; we just fail to
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | apply them.--Pascal
. The results are checked into CVS;
I'll do another release next week.
Be seeing you,
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Convictions are more dangerous
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | enemies of truth
forgot to included
| it in you java code and i might need to fill a
| feature request?
Yes, that way I won't forget to write the code :-)
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | If we lived
lost if you
put them in a SF tracker.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | All the good maxims already exist
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | in the world; we just fail to
Chair, DocBook
on the docbook list.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | A man is not necessarily
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | intelligent because he has plenty
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee
.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Men are not sufficiently perfect
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | to exercise justice in the name of
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | virtue: the rule
several separate procedures.
But maybe not. Allowing stepalternatives as a child of procedure would
be more consistent, perhaps.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | If you are hankering after
on the
| DocBook SourceForge site.
Ooops and yes, respectively :-)
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To buy books would be a good thing
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | if we could also buy
change the !DOCTYPE to point to where you've put it.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | When the situation is desperate,
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | it is too late to be serious
.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | How can there be laughter, how can
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | there be pleasure, when the world
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | is burning?--The Dhammapada
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The perfect man has no method; or
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | rather the best of methods, which
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | is the method of
| no-method.--Shih-T'ao
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http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ |
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| 5. You know, I really want this at the URI level.
|
|!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC ... ...
|book
| ...
| xi:include
|href=http://localhost/profile/path/to/document.xml?condition='html
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| Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| I think the right answer is a specialized XML parser that performs a
| variant of the identity transformation. In fact, it does exactly what
| Jirka's profiling
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| Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| 1. Entities should be expanded. If users process
[...]
| Right. I know this. This is why I suggested that the facility might belong in
| the XSLT engine itself
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| Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| I think I'm willing to live without else. If I want else, I think the
| right answer is a special-purpose XML vocabulary:
|
| chapter
| prof:choose
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/ Eric S. Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| That's valid when the PIs are left in, but results in a non-XML
| document when profiled. My model forces the input to be well-formed
| XML and guarantees
that be part of XPointer or XInclude?
I'm not sure. I'm thinking it's part of the URI.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | When the situation is desperate,
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook
or stylesheet or .).
It's clearly not relative.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I often marvel that while each man
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | loves himself more than anyone
Chair
.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The fact of having been born is
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | bad augury for
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | immortality.--Santayana
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to me.
Can you try another processor?
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do not try to live forever. You
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | will not succeed.--George Bernard
Chair, DocBook
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| * Norman Walsh; [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08 Oct, 2002 wrote:
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|That probably needs to be an option. I tend to view appendixes in
|articles a bit like specially
now* :-)
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Faith makes many of the mountains
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | which it has to remove.--W. R. Inge
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee
the
| wrong pt_br to the correct pt-BR to use it. Not very nice, since it
| should be correct already.
Sigh. That's going to be harder. Where is it supposed to go in the HTML?
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the XHTML chunker to
output HTML instead of XHTML.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | One's never alone with a rubber
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | duck.
Chair, DocBook Technical
, is it for
| debug purpose and can I comment these lines.
Yes 1.56.1 in a few minutes...
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | As charms are nonsense, nonsense
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook
cvs:date element?
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is nothing which human
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | courage will not undertake, and
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee
the image for
| DocBook related icons.
I think I can talk O'Reilly into it if someone makes something we all
like.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The belief in a supernatural
http
xsl:when test=$element = 'colophon'back/xsl:when
xsl:otherwisebody/xsl:otherwise
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have animal magnetism. When I go
http://www.oasis-open.org
2.77 is the trio I use
Hmm. It works for me.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | How can there be laughter, how can
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | there be pleasure, when the world
the option that puts an article appendix on a separate page
sequence will have to be a little more clever.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Nothing is worth more than this
http
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http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | recognition that there are an
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | infinite number of things which
| are beyond it.--Pascal
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problems
later on.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Few men are so sufficiently
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | discerning to appreciate all the
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | evil
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The happiest people seem to be
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | those that have no particular
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | reason for being happy except that
| they are so.--W. R. Inge
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not going to get the DTD to do that without a lot of work.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The voice of the intellect is a
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | soft one, but it does
much for entity
| resolution over the net ;)
Ooops. Ah, well, I'm in the middle of edits for a new spec release so
I'll fix that :-)
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Nothing is worth
;decimal'/
parameter would let you pick the default you want. For HTML, using names
for the ISO Latin 1 characters is what most people expect.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Our
answer. You're just not used to looking at UTF-8 in
what ever editor you're using. Try selecting a different encoding.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The present moment is a powerful
document?
Because I have no idea how best to render them in the general case.
But I'm open to suggestions.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pleasure is seldom found where it
http://www.oasis
.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To what excesses will men not go
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | for the sake of a religion in
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | which they believe so little
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| * Norman Walsh; [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02 Oct, 2002 wrote:
|| 2 FW_MASQ
|| bla bla
||
|
|Fixed. CVS checkin imminent.
|
| Thanks I did get the fo
be another feature request if
| you want that to actually work.
I'm also fixing that for the FO case. I don't think HTML supports inherited
numerations on OLs.
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an explicit width, you should get scaling to that width. I
can't think of any way to selectively scale only those images that are
too wide.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Who knows
for
annotations that we hope will address this issue.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To probe a hole we first use a
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | straight stick to see how far
the links are valid, a validating parser
will test that every 'linkend' points to an 'id'.
If you want xrefs to only point to certain classes of elements, check
out Schematron.
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matches script'.
|
| so my question is - are /script elements allowed
| within a section element?
No, they're only allowed in the webpage head. Why do you need them in
a section?
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. So I'm looking either for a fix to this issue or
| another way to accomplish the same thing.
This is a stylesheet bug, plain and simple. I'll look into it later
this week or asap.
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Norman
,
norm
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Clearness is so eminently one of
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | the characteristics of truth that
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | often it even passes for truth
| itself.--Joubert
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| Mike
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http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | duck.
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee |
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. Putting it
before the Description is a possibility, I suppose...
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | A book is like a garden carried in
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | the pocket--(Arabic
is posted. (I have to approve
it manually, so if I happen to be on the road, it can take several
days.)
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | We make out of the quarrel with
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | others, rhetoric, but out of the
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | quarrel
your
index it would look like it contained index markup. You extract that,
massage it, and reformat the document using that index.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The fact of having been
} /
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | We think in generalities, but we
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | live in detail--Alfred North
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | Whitehead
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I'm on an airplane).
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Youth lasts much longer than young
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | people think.--Comtesse Diane
Chair, DocBook Technical
and bibliography components
shouldn't be treated specially. Sounds like it would be better if
component.title.properties was always used.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | A toy car
it?
Not really. Abstract, perhaps?
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do not try to live forever. You
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | will not succeed.--George Bernard
Chair, DocBook
, almost
everything else about XSL is a step forward.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | No man is more than another if he
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | does no more than
Chair, DocBook
more likely that a stylesheet customization here to skip
those elements would be less painful than a complex xpointer. But I
could be wrong :-)
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Man
.
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Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Life does not cease to be funny
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | when people die anymore than it
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