Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-31 Thread Nik Clayton
--gvF4niNJ+uBMJnEh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Catching up on my e-mail. On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 01:56:25PM -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: There's been a fair amount of discussion about how to make DocBook

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-31 Thread Michael Smith
Nik Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Didn't Mike Smith come up with a nifty way of remapping DocBook elements to other element names? I wrote a simple XSLT stylesheet that 1)looks through a document for any elements having an attribute with a certain name (which you specify with an

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-18 Thread martin . gautier
: Subject:Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook I wrote: |So it looks like if we use a Section-like (instead of Chapter-like) |content model for Topic, it'll mean that Topics can contain only |recursive Sections, not numbered ones (Sect1-Sect5

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-18 Thread Michael Smith
Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: / Michael Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: |So it looks like if we use a Section-like (instead of Chapter-like) |content model for Topic, it'll mean that Topics can contain only |recursive Sections, not numbered ones

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-18 Thread Gershon L Joseph
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Michael Smith wrote: But the content model Norm proposed for Topic is recursive, just like the one for Section is -- that is, a Topic can contain other Topics, nested indefinitely. So you could do: chapter titleHow to Drive/title topic id=1000 role=topic

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-18 Thread Gershon L Joseph
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Michael Smith wrote: However we decide to model it, it seems like Refentry needs to be allowed in there somewhere. Agreed. And if we do add a recursive topic element to divcomponent.mix, I too would be strongly opposed to allowing it to contain other sectioning

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-18 Thread Michael Smith
Gershon L Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Michael Smith wrote: [...] Also, does it make sense to model a help topic as a recursive element? What I mean is, in most (or maybe all) current online help systems, each help topic is actually a single HTML page/webpage

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Michael Smith
I wrote: |So it looks like if we use a Section-like (instead of Chapter-like) |content model for Topic, it'll mean that Topics can contain only |recursive Sections, not numbered ones (Sect1-Sect5), and that |Topics can't contain Refentrys at all (or Simplesect). Norm wrote:

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Bob McIlvride
1. Online-help peer to Set. Do we actually need one? It would be useful for us. We currently package our book set containing documentation on all of our products, with one version installable into an online helpviewer in the QNX operating system. Most of our products can work together,

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Michael Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | 1. Online-help peer to Set. Do we actually need one? What will the |processing expectations be for it? Do any of the existing help |systems -- HTML Help, Javahelp, or whatever -- provide any way for |packaging up sets of HTML Help

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Dave Pawson
At 13:56 16/10/2001 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: What's the plan: The overall plan is to allow people to author Help Sets using all of the rich technical structure of DocBook without shoe-horning it into the classical print book model. Guessing that 'topics' could be viewed in a similar way to

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Nancy (Paisner) Harrison
| 3. Content model for the set-of-topics element (Helpproject). Does it | need to include the navigational components (ToC, LoT, Index)? | These seem useful only if authors want to manually author ToCs, | LoTs, and Indexes, instead of leaving it up to the | stylesheets/helpcompiler to generate

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Nancy (Paisner) Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I, on the other hand, am concerned with not allowing sections in the | mix, since that removes a transparent way to reuse data between | print and online delivery. If you need sections in a topic, use nested topics. Allowing

Re: DOCBOOK: A straw proposal for help topics in DocBook

2001-10-17 Thread martin . gautier
|So it looks like if we use a Section-like (instead of Chapter-like) |content model for Topic, it'll mean that Topics can contain only |recursive Sections, not numbered ones (Sect1-Sect5), and that |Topics can't contain Refentrys at all (or Simplesect). I am strongly opposed to