Re: [docbook-apps] Better rendering for programlisting

2012-05-05 Thread davep
On 06/05/12 01:23, David Cramer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2012 10:38 AM, davep wrote: 1. Stick with what we have now. 2. Use the table solution and accept the limitation that all lines must always be the same height. Why is this an issue Norm? How often in

Re: [docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread davep
On 05/05/12 18:57, Richard Hamilton wrote: Dave, Regarding the markup mechanics, here are two possibly unexpected things to look out for: 1) When you are doing a range, the closing index term in the range cannot follow a section close. I.e., If you have the following some text.

Re: [docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread davep
On 05/05/12 17:17, Norman Walsh wrote: davep writes: I did made a note to for myself some time back that an inside a footnote caused an error. I was using oXygenXML v12 at the time. Not sure if this is still the case. "Footnotes aren't normally indexed" is one piece of advice. So perhaps do

Re: [docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread davep
On 05/05/12 17:15, Norman Walsh wrote: The sources for The Definitive Guide have quite a bit of index markup from the O'Reilly copyedit. That might be a good place to look for examples. Indexing is an art. Yes. Exactly how it's described in this book I'm reading. Tks for the reference, I'll

Re: [docbook-apps] Better rendering for programlisting

2012-05-05 Thread David Cramer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2012 10:38 AM, davep wrote: >> 1. Stick with what we have now. 2. Use the table solution and >> accept the limitation that all lines must always be the same >> height. > > Why is this an issue Norm? How often in a fixed width font do users >

Re: [docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Hamilton
Dave, Regarding the markup mechanics, here are two possibly unexpected things to look out for: 1) When you are doing a range, the closing index term in the range cannot follow a section close. I.e., If you have the following some text. Generally this is not a problem, s

Re: [docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread PC Thoms
That would be great for me. I was working on a public domain text which had a footnotes indexed, when I encountered an error in validating the xml. On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Norman Walsh wrote: > davep writes: > >> I did made a note to for myself some time back that an > inside a > >> f

[docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread Norman Walsh
davep writes: >> I did made a note to for myself some time back that an inside a >> footnote caused an error. I was using oXygenXML v12 at the time. Not sure >> if this is still the case. > > "Footnotes aren't normally indexed" is one piece of advice. So perhaps > docbook is right. I have a vagu

[docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread Norman Walsh
davep writes: >> Are you asking more about the indexing task itself or about the technical >> aspect? > > The docbook aspects please Thomas The sources for The Definitive Guide have quite a bit of index markup from the O'Reilly copyedit. That might be a good place to look for examples. >> Speaki

Re: [docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread PC Thoms
Hi Dave Here is another example with quotations. This from a legacy project, which is most of my work. “Banks,” The On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:05 PM, davep wrote: > On 05/05/12 12:52, PC Thoms wrote: > >> Hi Dave >> >> Mulvany's text is an excellent indexing manual. >> The Chicago Manual of S

Re: [docbook-apps] Better rendering for programlisting

2012-05-05 Thread davep
On 05/05/12 14:33, Norman Walsh wrote: Hello world, The current rendering for verbatim environments, when line numbers are enabled, has a significant deficiency: you can't cut-and-paste the listing without also getting the line numbers and separators. Looking around at other sites with numbered

Re: [docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread davep
On 05/05/12 12:52, PC Thoms wrote: Hi Dave Mulvany's text is an excellent indexing manual. The Chicago Manual of Style (http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/home.html) has a concise chapter on indexing. A free trail is available, and this manual is usually available at a library in the referenc

Re: [docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread davep
On 05/05/12 11:00, Thomas Schraitle wrote: Any advice from those with lots of experience of using db indexes please? Are you asking more about the indexing task itself or about the technical aspect? The docbook aspects please Thomas Speaking about the indexing task itself, IHMO this is som

Re: [docbook-apps] Better rendering for programlisting

2012-05-05 Thread David Cramer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2012 08:33 AM, Norman Walsh wrote: > That works, mostly, but if anything in the listing causes a > variation in line height (such as a larger callout), the numbers > and the lines get out of sync. Hi Norm, We encountered the line height probl

[docbook-apps] Better rendering for programlisting

2012-05-05 Thread Norman Walsh
Hello world, The current rendering for verbatim environments, when line numbers are enabled, has a significant deficiency: you can't cut-and-paste the listing without also getting the line numbers and separators. Looking around at other sites with numbered program listings, the solution seems to

Re: [docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread PC Thoms
Hi Dave Mulvany's text is an excellent indexing manual. The Chicago Manual of Style (http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/home.html) has a concise chapter on indexing. A free trail is available, and this manual is usually available at a library in the reference section. I have indexed books using

Re: [docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread Thomas Schraitle
Hi Dave, Am Samstag, 5. Mai 2012, 08:10:05 schrieb davep: > I'm about to start indexing a db5 book. > Reading up on the subject(Nancy C. Mulvany) and wondered if anyone has > been there and done that, got the tee-shirt and found the pitfalls in > docbook? I don't know this author, so I can only s

[docbook-apps] Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread davep
I'm about to start indexing a db5 book. Reading up on the subject(Nancy C. Mulvany) and wondered if anyone has been there and done that, got the tee-shirt and found the pitfalls in docbook? Any advice from those with lots of experience of using db indexes please? regards -- Dave Pawson XSLT